i understand the frustration over the injectors but i was expecting worse on the call he, he provided an option to an obvious mistake and he could tell the dude was trying to get at more than what was at stake...which was the injectors....chads in the wrong for sending the wrong injectors and the buyer is also in the wrong for not noticing the on3 stamp right off the bat and then not even listening to his options....not defending anyone but if i order SD injectors which by the way i have their 60#ers and they come stamped otherwise you better believe im calling up the place i bought em from asap...im not gonna assume something and risk my engine...live and learn..OP im glad u were able to correct your problem....Chad hire help shore up your customer service and remember if you build it they will come...treat us bad and watch us go

 

Hey it was my own fault! No crankcase vent, the oil couldn't feed back into the pan. Nothing but great things to say about my precision.

 

I have posted on this already and Im sure you have seen it. I have re-hashed this time and time again and said Im in the wrong. I take responsibility for the issue and Mike invoicing it wrong. I shouldn't have been at work the day of the call, its no excuse and the phone call just put me over the edge. I spent all morning at the urgent care which doesnt matter, Ive been putting up with the mistakes mike made after firing him for months and it was just the tipping point when I got the call and he tore into me. I respect everyone and I feel that I need respect in return(that clearly wasnt the case).

People doubted me when I came into the Mustang market and I have proved my product there. I will do the same with the ls market and have even higher expectations. Certainly people are going to doubt me but I will pull through it and prove my product

 

Maybe you need to hire a penguin?!

 

Like Katt Williams says..."how the f**k can you get accused of something over and over and over and it not be true"

 

Everyone has bad days. You just unfortunately got caught in the act and plastered all over the forums. I have gotten less than perfect service from some of the sponsors on here, some of the big name retailers, etc. That guy had a bit of an agenda. But stuff happens and you move forward.

I think the turbos are pretty good looking and will do just fine for someone with a budget build who does not need the latest greatest. If you guys had an 80mm T6 turbo at the time for less than 1/2 the cost of what I paid I probably would have tried it!

 

^^^ x2

 

Agreed. I have gotten treated like crap from big name sponsors as well. When I ordered my turbo from On3 Chad was very helpful, not to mention the turbo arrived quickly.

This isn't the first thread like this to come about on this forum as many sponsors have done wrong as well.

 

Im going to the track in a few weeks, if somebody has a mp 70 or 76 to put up against my chinese 68mm ill change it out at the track and see what the difference is.

 

I have a mp70 here that needs a rebuild kit if you really wanted to test with it. I wouldn't go through the hassle to even test the two. I was one of the largest mp dealers when they were in business and our standard On 3 70mm would hold its own. I have a very large amount of cars with similar builds and all similar numbers using our On 3 70 vs the mp 70.

 

Anyone looking to get rid of their on3 turbo I'll give it a go!!

 

I bought the 76mm from Chad and it arrived super fast and looks to be good quality. I have since cut a 2" hole in to the hot-side and mounted a wynton gate there.
The only thing I have noticed on the unit is a "grinder cut" (best as I can describe it) on the compressor side turbine. I think it was a balancing cut, at least the only thing I could fathom.

I have emailed them questions since about oil feeds and such and always received a response within 2 days.

My experience with this company has been good. I've been thinking of buying two 70's and changing to a twin setup if this 76 performs well.

 

Also Buyer Beware: CalSpeed & Performance in Bakersfield California any one who uses these On 3 parts knowing they are **** and charging you a **** load of money are crooks and the word will spread fast.

I am going to sell this whole On 3 setup and get some quality parts, there is absolutely no turbo whistle at all & I hate it. My old STS rear mount Garrett was way sicker... I'm posting here because I'm pissed off and mad at myself for spending so much $ on something I'm not happy with the at all. Maybe some guys will read this and tell others and not go to this place and think a lot before buying a On 3 knock off TT setup to save money.

I'd like to let everyone know the truth about this CalSpeed & Performance place on Sako road. Ever since I got this truck back, it's been one thing after another, every time I get under neath it or look close there is something that is done half *** and very unprofessional, as if the workers don't a give a ****, or they are jealous they will never have a super tricked nice ride like mine (wait it has On 3 twins, it's total junk) They seem to think zip ties are the solution for supports, support for Coolant tank left un bolted to frame (hello dumb F*** it's not doing anything). Oil fittings not tight leaked a bunch one day after barely bumping a line, arrived at shop to notice all my windows are rolled down with no sun shade in the window and my interior is just getting cooked in the hell hole sun of bako, leather seat all greasy, one tire almost flat, I grabbed an air hose and inflated my tires to proper PSI. Then come to find out the night before they are out racing my truck against Roush 427 Mustangs (which it got the Stang at the end on low boost & with junky On 3 turbos, lol) & they showed me the video. At that point I didn't show it but I was F***n pissed. The Owner also told me that they were powder coating the cold side piping, come to find out none of it was and it was just spray painted. 02 Sensor just left dangling rubbing on the front drive line as it spins, Ambient air temp sensor for rear view mirror just left hanging, had a nice LS3 90mm TB before I left that **** hole when I returned to get the truck, it has a trail blazer SS 86-87MM TB on it, I asked why? he said the tuning software said the TPS was only going to a max of 87% but it was going too 100% with the Trailblazer SS TB?, even though I have a Xlink box so I can hook up to that style of TB. I called XLink they said it doesn't sound right. I asked if i had Titanium retainers the Owner said yes, even though my invoice doesn't say so, pulled the valve covers off and the retainers are magnetic as hell, some how my cam sensor wires got pinched on the build and they had to cut wires at the PCM and run the new ones to the sensor (this really pissed me off) Notice I had Ford Injector Plugs I got charged for brand new delphis hmm must have been laying around, he wont notice, person doing the exhaust never noticed that the exhaust gas exit was kinda close to the right rear shock cover and it got melted off, they put a 90 on the muffler at the last minute cause I said something, The most garbage welding I have ever seen, there isn't one weld that looks nice, porosity and uneven metal on every weld, some of the welds on the hot side piping where a V-band or clamp goes the welds leak AIR in multiple spots from the weld zone, I felt where the air is coming out of. Not to mention I can only get barely 6psi out of this TT setup right now cause the wastegate springs are so weak, then notice the chinese On 3 Turbos, WG's & BOV and realize thats going to blow nuts trying to find parts for these. When I told the Owner he said "I know how particular you are, but I hope you wont hold that against us". Pff.. It's called pride & caring about craftsman ship. This turbo build took over 4 months. I had to practically tell them to hurry the f*** up I want my truck back & i'm coming to get it tomorrow if it's done or not, enough is enough. B.S. Bunch of the fins on my air to water IC radiator behind front grille all smashed and ugly looking. wow they must have been really careful...

Now i'm really worried the WCCH LS3 Stage 3 CNC heads I payed $2250 for are actually real, I can't find the serial number so that Proheads.com can verify they are what I hope they are. From the lies shitty craftsman ship, forever time frame, and the On 3 Twins I'm questioning everything on this POS truck. lol. They all jacked my American racing High Flow Stainless cats with pipes that I had on there before the 408 went in, they were expensive and I told them I wanted them back, you can't have those. I never saw them again even though I asked about 13 times. The LS3 TB I never got back either I also payed more for that than what the used TrailBlzr SS costed them. Also got double charged on my invoice I noticed later on for the Aeroforce Gauge $240 twice. In all I feel like I got ripped off. But I will spread the word just like I told the Owner.

CalSpeed & Performance. (Liars, corner cutters, No certs for the mechanics, dirty & un organized shop, Tweakers with no teeth working for them, Customer service similar to Chad's @ On 3, Parts crooks selling your stuff on ebay that you want back or keeping it for them selves) But look under their hood bet you wont find a knock off junky turbo part.

Motor:
Invoice says. 408 stroker, wiseco pistons, gfx rings, h-beam forged 6.125" rods, forged 4.0" stroke crankshaft & arp studs. West Coast Cylinder Heads LS3 CNC stage 3 heads, LS7 lifters, 231/239 .617/.624 lift 115LSA cam, Double Valve Springs, Holley pro LS3 Intake, 90 mm LS3 TB, Upgraded trunion rocker arms (including price of ls3 offset rockers and pedestals), yank TC, SFI Flexplate?, Shift kit and servo, Melling oil pimp, upgraded timing chain assembly, underdrive SFI crank pulley,

Built tranny $3,300. Broken chunk out of the bottom of the case, sent the owner the picture when i found it and he played dumb, "I'm not understanding what I'm looking at", "I wonder if something from the inside broke and shot through there" he said. No somebody was a dumb F*** and broke it during the install or it was broke to begin, cause they sent a core in they had out already. My Original tranny case was fine. I also asked the owner about 15 times to put the dust covers back on bye the starter and the opposite side of starter so you cant see the wheel the starter rides on, plus I don't want water or dirt or critters getting in there. They never put the covers back on and they would have came off the stock tranny. Once again half *** ****.

Twin turbos Invoice says the following except the dreaded word, On 3: Custom race twin 67mm turbos (AR 70 stamped on turbos?) sno performance meth kit, twin 38mm WG's, 50mm BOV, all piping (junkiest thin way rusty **** i've ever seen), scavenge oil pump system, and all the rest blah blah blah. Cold side piping to be powdercoated (turns out they spray painted it black and then told me it was powder coated, hmmm it straches off easily) Twin intank 255lph fuel pumps, 8an line, fittings, afpr, return 6an lines, Air to water Killer Chiller (which is not a Killer Chiller, probably a chineese knock off) Tripple pillar pod, Aeroforce Interceptor, AEM widband, AEM Trust Boost & Controller (which seems not to work at all when I try to turn up boost) NGK TR-6 Plugs (kinda hot for all that boost i'm going to be running i changed them out already) Speed density 2/3 bar PCM tuning ($300) Need more boost 6 psi is just a tease, now the hard part finding the springs for these garbage WG's or spending more $ on some Tials. Hopefully these turbos dont break when I throw 12-13 psi at em. The Owner also told me I don't have to back off the timing at all when I make my jump to double digit boost, but that Aeroforce is showing IGN advance and over 30 at idle sometimes and WOT? Temps are always low thats a plus. Still in the negatives on this thing though.

 

I've been that penguin. Worked CS for a company dealing on eBay and on a website, mostly suspension bits. I enjoyed it, it was simple work for the most part. Read and reply to e-mail. Be available for chat and phone calls. Call manufacturers and ensure what we ordered is what we got. Set an alarm for 3am to call some international company to ask why they sent five widgets that fit only one car when you ordered one widget each for five different cars. That wasn't so simple. Neither was trying to keep up with all the listings on eBay AND the website and making sure all the descriptions match and the pictures show up and the applications were all filled in so you know when you order your part that it fits for sure on your car.

The other complicated part was that everything didn't happen in one place. I'm in Texas. The owner's up in like Iowa. The warehouse is in New York. When you trust a logistics company to take in your stock and keep it organized, things can get lost or misplaced. I'd order kits from a company in Australia and they'd take WEEKS to be built and then another several days to show up in the warehouse. And then they'd be in the wrong bin and a customer would get the wrong kit and it's a pain. It was my job to make them happy and sometimes you couldn't make them happy. And if you did like I did and chose NOT to trust the logistics company, and made them verify stock levels on a weekly basis, then you've got upset warehouse employees and they're more likely to throw your widgets across the room and then the customer gets a widget with a torn gasket or a ding in the housing or is missing a rubber thingy. Ouch.

I can understand it from both sides now though. You order a widget for your 1997 Myabatsu Spritzel and the widget comes in time but it's missing a doodad. The doodad is out of stock. You get all bothered by it and want your doodad now. So customer service guy goes to another supplier and he says "hey, I can get your doodad to your customer drop shipped in two days." Two days later you get a doodad but because that supplier has a different stock number system, you just got the doodad for the 00-02 Spritzel and it's too small and won't work. You return it and another two weeks go by because you returned your stuff ground to save money, and finally you get the right one for the 94-99 Spritzel. Meanwhile you are out that time and one ground return shipping. But think about the company. They're out two day shipping twice for the doodads and now they have a 00-02 doodad they didn't need in stock. You leave them a negative feedback on eBay and their fees go up from 11% to 13% until it recovers. That two percent multiplied by tens of thousands of dollars in sales really hurts.

I bought a double cheeseburger yesterday. Lettuce, Onions, Pickles, Mustard, Jalapenos. Easy, right? I get home and there's no mustard on this burger anywhere. I'm like WTF I want my mustard. I go in my fridge, no mustard. Kids used it all on hot dogs at lunch. Do you know what I did?

I did NOT grow a vagina and start whining on the phone at the drive-thru monkey.

I did NOT go on an internet forum and tell the world that Kahuna Burger is full of incompetent knuckleheads that couldn't serve you their *** if they had a pictogram and help from the assistant manager.

I did NOT call the BBB to file a complaint of poor performance and condiment witholding.

I went to a grocery store and bought a bottle of mustard.

 

sounds like there all junk!

i was looking into some of these knock offs trying to save a few bucks just like everyone tries to do. why we push stock long and short blocks. this thread just confuses everything more.

i have a pt7675 sitting in a box waiting to go in for repair. not sure what the next step is going to be. really would like to go twins but dont think a bad pt7675 is worth a whole lot.

 

I can personally say I have an On3 76mm on my setup. It is making good power, spools quick, and just plain WORKS. I have 1500 miles on it as of now with no problems. Ill update this thread every 1000miles.....

 

Ive used plenty of mp and tnetics turbos and have only had issues with one tnetics.
And got repaired under there warranty, minimum hassles.
i will use tnetics from now on for everything. I have one on a build that is prolly due for a rebuild since its been in use for bout 7yrs now and countless street,road,race miles.
I dont care where they are made, i care about the service backing them if anything goes wrong. Ive had good results from hks ssq bov, which are also cheap and also have service after sale.
i will do all i can to keep even a jy motor from grenading. I dont get off to that ****. if anything i will fortify it as much as needed.

 

In reply to: RuNgOuT1

We didnt plan to reply but this person is probably one of our worst experiences a shop could ask for in a customer to deal with. Everything posted was completely untrue and customer is just very upset that will not do business with him further.

Come to find out he has a very large narcotics problem compounded with a bi-polar disorder in his early 20's which explained alot of our dealing with him.

Real story:
We built a 408" stroker with the best of everything in his budget, finished it with no issues or problems of any type. He couldnt thank us enough and tell us how great experience was. Truck had zero mechanical problems, took it home for months without any issues.

THEN called speaking mostly broken english ebonics slang with every other word cursing "I wanna smoke some fools, gonna break me off some N*g**as"
etc. Dropped off his truck and says he was gonna be out of town dealing with some stuff etc (which made alot more sense after finding out
came into our shop dressed/talking/acting as B-Rad straight out out of the movie "Malibu's most wanted".


Never saw the customer again. He paid in cash, random small bills of misc denominations. Showed up with only two days notice when the truck was 99% finished and literally needed to take off with it "done or not" and leave the state with it that day.

When he came in our shop, he couldnt sit still, we had several customers privately ask "Is he on dope?", very ackward to everyone at the shop. 5 minutes after he showed up he took his shirt off right in the middle of our office showroom and walked around with his baggy pants hanging around his boxers "because he was burning up sweating" in the 70 degree AC inside.

To address his comments that are very hard to understand and are completely random and don't make sense:

1) He showed up with no notice and picked up the vehicle unannounced and before planned completion date

2) Everything on the turbo kit was top notch, extremely clean. Truck ran fantastic. Truck was set to 6 psi boost for break-in initial driving.

3) Customer was informed of the choice of On3 turbos to fit his budget as most other brands are 2x/3x the price. We use several brands: CompTurbo, Precision, Magnum, BorgWarner etc. but have never had a failure or problem with On3 in anyway. Never heard any complaint about them from him till now

4) Customer text/called a few weeks later that it had no problems and everything ran great etc and was asking some questions on how to turn the boost up so he could "Rape some fools". Then he called and left some very weird voicemails in the middle of the night randomly that at first sounded like very intoxicated or heavy drug use. Then apologizes through later texts and calls. Very ackward. never dealt with someone like this before.

5) Every detail on the truck was done properly. The things stated are false, we have a huge collection of pictures/documentation including recorded voicemails, text messages etc.

6) Stored inside, clean inside and out, we cover up all paint work. No scratches etc.

7) The X-link Torque Rush box was having problems not getting full throttle. The manufacturer stated they were having problems with the box on 06-07 TAC modules with 90mm+ LS2/LS3 etc throttle bodies. His solution was to swap it to a factory NNBS 87mm from a newer 07+ truck application. It fixed the problem. We explained this to customer on the solution and he seemed to comprehend it at the time. He was not charged any extra for the more expensive 07+ 87mm throttle body (actually cost more from dealer).

Your heads are direct from Richard @ WCCH, they have their double spring kit with Ti retainers. Not sure where you are coming from regarding the magnet. Feel free to contact Richard @ WCCH regarding our relationship with them and history etc.

Makes no sense what you are referring to on timing and the tuning. You misunderstand everything that has been said to you.

None of our employees act or act anything like yourself. They are all very good friends of a large majority of our customers outside of the shop. It is completely inappropriate to comment negatively and falsely about them as well. We keep a very organized shop for as busy as we are (2 full time employees alone to just keep clean/organized alone).

After your last rant and rave, you left us a 2 minute voicemail apologizing for all the random things that made no sense that you had said. We will not accept another one next time you need something.

Do not refer to our shop again with lies or false statements. Do not contact us EVER again.

 

Wow, this is pretty epic.

 

Been doing business with Calspeed for over a year and they are great.

I am sure that they did the right thing.

Jim is a stand up fella, that does what he says. Oh and BTW they build awesome Magnum Powered rides LOL.