***LQ4 S475 E85 Non-Intercooled - Daily Driver***
02-05-2013, 03:14 AM
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***LQ4 S475 E85 Non-Intercooled - Daily Driver*** Im sure some of you have seen my last build (454 LSX), well I started parting that build out to finance my dream build (Project "Because Streetcar"), but since Im in my Senior year in college, finishing up a mechanical engineering degree, I don't have the time to invest in such a big build right now.
So, I am reincarnating that chassis, which I have a lot of time into.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-na-build.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...ld-thread.html
Double Dipping, my will be my DD, and is forcing me to double dip into my project funds...
Current Plan:
LQ4, Truck Manifolds, 78mm Turbo, No intercooler, E85, 12-15psi
Have:
LQ4
317s
DR Timing Chain
Machined Timing Cover
Ported LS6 Oil Pump
Moroso Oil Pan
Pushrods
LS1 Rockers
ARP Head Bolts
FAST 2 Bar MAP Sensor
Fuel System
Built Car
Need:
LS7 Lifters
Head gaskets L92 or LS9
Cam (suggestions... I really don't want any lope, been there done that)
Valve Springs (thinking PRC golds)
Intake (I would really like to run the holley hi-ram, need more research)
Fuel Rails
Injectors?(I have 85# shorties, depends on intake)
Truck Manifolds
V-bands
304SS tubing (2" crossover?)
T4 Flange
Turbo (thinking a T7875)
Oil feed/drain
Alum tubing
Coupler
WG(P46)
BOV
Also, with as much time as I spent getting the car to look as clean as it does, I want to continue that during this build, which will make things a little difficult.
So, I am reincarnating that chassis, which I have a lot of time into.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...-na-build.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...ld-thread.html
Double Dipping, my will be my DD, and is forcing me to double dip into my project funds...
Current Plan:
LQ4, Truck Manifolds, 78mm Turbo, No intercooler, E85, 12-15psi
Have:
LQ4
317s
DR Timing Chain
Machined Timing Cover
Ported LS6 Oil Pump
Moroso Oil Pan
Pushrods
LS1 Rockers
ARP Head Bolts
FAST 2 Bar MAP Sensor
Fuel System
Built Car
Need:
LS7 Lifters
Head gaskets L92 or LS9
Cam (suggestions... I really don't want any lope, been there done that)
Valve Springs (thinking PRC golds)
Intake (I would really like to run the holley hi-ram, need more research)
Fuel Rails
Injectors?(I have 85# shorties, depends on intake)
Truck Manifolds
V-bands
304SS tubing (2" crossover?)
T4 Flange
Turbo (thinking a T7875)
Oil feed/drain
Alum tubing
Coupler
WG(P46)
BOV
Also, with as much time as I spent getting the car to look as clean as it does, I want to continue that during this build, which will make things a little difficult.
Last edited by PUNISHER TA; 10-27-2013 at 05:57 PM.
02-05-2013, 05:54 AM
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I'm glad to see you are keeping this car.
My only suggestions:
valve springs - check out Brian Tooley....I just ordered a set and they are very nice
Turbo - depending on budget I would look into PT7675 or T-netics 7875/7675. My TC78 has been a great starter turbo but with your extra cubes you would def benefit from more turbine
My only suggestions:
valve springs - check out Brian Tooley....I just ordered a set and they are very nice
Turbo - depending on budget I would look into PT7675 or T-netics 7875/7675. My TC78 has been a great starter turbo but with your extra cubes you would def benefit from more turbine
02-05-2013, 06:16 AM
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I'm glad to see you are keeping this car.
My only suggestions:
valve springs - check out Brian Tooley....I just ordered a set and they are very nice
Turbo - depending on budget I would look into PT7675 or T-netics 7875/7675. My TC78 has been a great starter turbo but with your extra cubes you would def benefit from more turbine
My only suggestions:
valve springs - check out Brian Tooley....I just ordered a set and they are very nice
Turbo - depending on budget I would look into PT7675 or T-netics 7875/7675. My TC78 has been a great starter turbo but with your extra cubes you would def benefit from more turbine
Yea, I saw the Tooley springs for sale. I had not heard of them, the last time I researched a build like this was 2009, before I got carried away on the big cube LSX game.
As far as the TC78, where are you with it, as far as whp or psi.. My goal right now is just to have the car done when the roads are ready. Im really not sure of my power goals, idk what is reasonable with this shortblock/etc.
02-05-2013, 06:47 AM
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Don't know if you remember my car but I was parked about 2-3 cars away from you in that second picture at BW3. I remember talking to Blake and he ended up helping me out with my tune...
Last year I was busy working out the tuning, etc so I never went above my 6lb WG spring. I never dyno'd the car but at 6psi I was hitting my rev limiter at 121.5mph in the quarter. This year I bought an electronic boost controller and plan on increasing the boost to 9-10psi to start.
The TC78 will probably take you as far as or further than the stock longblock but you would likely need to shift early due to the exhaust restriction. The TC78 is considered too small for even my 346c.i. but it fit well within my budget and power goals. I'm happy with it for now.
Last year I was busy working out the tuning, etc so I never went above my 6lb WG spring. I never dyno'd the car but at 6psi I was hitting my rev limiter at 121.5mph in the quarter. This year I bought an electronic boost controller and plan on increasing the boost to 9-10psi to start.
The TC78 will probably take you as far as or further than the stock longblock but you would likely need to shift early due to the exhaust restriction. The TC78 is considered too small for even my 346c.i. but it fit well within my budget and power goals. I'm happy with it for now.
02-05-2013, 07:14 AM
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Don't know if you remember my car but I was parked about 2-3 cars away from you in that second picture at BW3. I remember talking to Blake and he ended up helping me out with my tune...
Last year I was busy working out the tuning, etc so I never went above my 6lb WG spring. I never dyno'd the car but at 6psi I was hitting my rev limiter at 121.5mph in the quarter. This year I bought an electronic boost controller and plan on increasing the boost to 9-10psi to start.
The TC78 will probably take you as far as or further than the stock longblock but you would likely need to shift early due to the exhaust restriction. The TC78 is considered too small for even my 346c.i. but it fit well within my budget and power goals. I'm happy with it for now.
Last year I was busy working out the tuning, etc so I never went above my 6lb WG spring. I never dyno'd the car but at 6psi I was hitting my rev limiter at 121.5mph in the quarter. This year I bought an electronic boost controller and plan on increasing the boost to 9-10psi to start.
The TC78 will probably take you as far as or further than the stock longblock but you would likely need to shift early due to the exhaust restriction. The TC78 is considered too small for even my 346c.i. but it fit well within my budget and power goals. I'm happy with it for now.
Oh yea, I remember now. Of course... forgive me, Ive been up all night doing homework.
Yea, I revved my 454 to 7900, but I dont plan on doing that again, I think Ill be happy with the TC78 for now. I just want to do some cruisin. I mean, i haven't made any firm decisions, but thats where Im leaning.
02-05-2013, 10:47 AM
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I loved my TC78 but dont use it on a 6.0. the new tnetics 7875 would much better and its only slightly more than a new tc78. something 80mm exhaust would be even better because you are gonna be able to push that stock bottom reallllllly hard if you tune it right. if it were me, id stand the radiator up and put a BW S480 on it
02-05-2013, 04:15 PM
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I loved my TC78 but dont use it on a 6.0. the new tnetics 7875 would much better and its only slightly more than a new tc78. something 80mm exhaust would be even better because you are gonna be able to push that stock bottom reallllllly hard if you tune it right. if it were me, id stand the radiator up and put a BW S480 on it
) Im more interested in cheap reliably power (meaning I have to give up going fast)Ill look into the 7875
They radiator may end up vertical, as I said, engine bay cleanliness is a top priority.
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02-05-2013, 04:31 PM
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This is just my daily, Im not looking to break any records, (with this build ) Im more interested in cheap reliably power (meaning I have to give up going fast)
Ill look into the 7875
They radiator may end up vertical, as I said, engine bay cleanliness is a top priority.
) Im more interested in cheap reliably power (meaning I have to give up going fast)Ill look into the 7875
They radiator may end up vertical, as I said, engine bay cleanliness is a top priority.
its great but far too small. 7675 at a minimum.
02-05-2013, 05:33 PM
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So, I just did a bit of research and confirmed what you were telling me. Looks like im going to have to make some more room in my budget for a 7875... Turbonetics or Precision?
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After some more research and a few life obstacles. Im going to try out an On3 turbo.
I was thinking I would go with a pair of their 70mm turbos... but after seeing some impressive results from their 76, I am planning on going with a single 76.
I will order my hotside piping and turbo and stuff next week.
This weekend, I am unpacking the car, and trying to organize the garage a little.
I was thinking I would go with a pair of their 70mm turbos... but after seeing some impressive results from their 76, I am planning on going with a single 76.
I will order my hotside piping and turbo and stuff next week.
This weekend, I am unpacking the car, and trying to organize the garage a little.
03-01-2013, 04:32 PM
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The performance I have seen suggests otherwise. I think it will keep me happy for now. For this car, right now it is not worth another $900 for marginally better performance above 6000RPM. Increased spending on this project will only delay my real project.
03-02-2013, 08:56 AM
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But isn't the size of that thing massive? I would have ran one but no way it was fitting where i needed it to.
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Hmm... I hadn't seen the pricing on the Borg units. This will only be a T4 build. But, I see they have quite a selection to choose from.
FTR this is a T56 build and I have no plans to upgrade. I am trying to get this car on the road, so I can start to spend time building my new project.
FTR this is a T56 build and I have no plans to upgrade. I am trying to get this car on the road, so I can start to spend time building my new project.