Anyone spray an ATI with a 5177 kit?
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Anyone spray an ATI with a 5177 kit? Getting bored already, thinking cam and upgraded pulley system/more boost but I think the most economical, safest and easiest way to add another 50rwhp is with a nos 5177 system. I am mainly looking to get the 60' down and will probably just spray it until 56-5800 rpm (I shift at 6500) in each gear, that way my MAF will still read the whole way and not max out (maybe). Plus I can use the purge to spray on the intercoolers while staging and that should cool them off a bit..
Anyone do it and run their car, the ATI plenum looks like a natural for a 5177 kit
Anyone do it and run their car, the ATI plenum looks like a natural for a 5177 kit
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Uh oh.....
I figure I could knock .2-.3 off fairly easy.. Thread Starter
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I would think someone would have done it by now, I found a couple pics of someone who has it installed on an ATI plenum but no track results. If I couldnt keep it under control with MAF I could always just use it for an intercooler cooler..
The way my MAF is set up now it reads ~60-61lb/min at 9psi at 7000 rpm - I dont run it to 7000 I just wanted to see how far the MAF would go Since it will peak at 67 I think I have plenty of room to fool with it with a 50 dry shot and still keep it easily tunable with the MAFT at the track. The injectors should handle it easy if I shut it off when it hits around 6psi - be a nice big, flat HP/torque curve
The way my MAF is set up now it reads ~60-61lb/min at 9psi at 7000 rpm - I dont run it to 7000 I just wanted to see how far the MAF would go
Since it will peak at 67 I think I have plenty of room to fool with it with a 50 dry shot and still keep it easily tunable with the MAFT at the track. The injectors should handle it easy if I shut it off when it hits around 6psi - be a nice big, flat HP/torque curve Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Ed LS1 Vert
I was also wondering if it would help spraying before the supercharger.
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Originally Posted by kp
The supercharger would heat the nitous pretty well plus I dont think its a good idea to hit a hot impeller spinning at 30,000 rpm plus with cold nitrous. Could be wrong on that but I wouldnt want to try it
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http://www.californiamasseys.com/frc2.jpg
found that somewhere.
N20 is after the blower,so thats not an issue.
Ryan
found that somewhere.
N20 is after the blower,so thats not an issue.
Ryan
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http://www.californiamasseys.com/frc2.jpg
found that somewhere.
N20 is after the blower,so thats not an issue.
Ryan
found that somewhere.
N20 is after the blower,so thats not an issue.
Ryan
NBM~01~WS6,
With an M6 I would be only at the 490-500rwhp mark in good weather so I dont think another 50rwhp in the midrange will do much damage IF the tune is safe. I will be shutting it off before max boost in each gear with a window switch so it will still make the same peak power. On an auto car like mine I really think it will help the 60' out a ton..
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
I know Ken G on the boards, Mostly in the easter members has a small shot with a blower. East Side Did some work with it and they tune it.
not to sure of any specs and things but it works well for him and gives you a name to look for.
Good luck.
not to sure of any specs and things but it works well for him and gives you a name to look for.
Good luck.
TNT dry kit here. I was doing it on the stock block too. 50hp shot, but with no bottle warmer so the 50hp shot was more like a 35 shot lol. I have the window switch set at 3600-5800. I have it armed when staging and it comes on in first gear. I didn't get a best et due to no traction out of the hole with the N2O spraying and our notoriously ill prepped track, but I did get a 12.2@125mph with a sorry 60ft. My best time and mph without the N2O was 11.3@120, so if you have a good track you will get a good et, I know I would have hit 10's if the traction was there.
Here is a few pics, I hid the solenoids and the N2O feed
ignore the dirty engine, all the tree pollen is falling all over the place
But it works excellent, and I will be using the dry shot on this engine too. It will take a bit more fine tuning but I will get the two to work together.
Becareful of the purge, I have it coming out the nostrils on my hood, but originally had it by the intercooler on the driverside(where the airfilter is) and the rpms would go up when I purged
J
Here is a few pics, I hid the solenoids and the N2O feed
ignore the dirty engine, all the tree pollen is falling all over the place
But it works excellent, and I will be using the dry shot on this engine too. It will take a bit more fine tuning but I will get the two to work together.
Becareful of the purge, I have it coming out the nostrils on my hood, but originally had it by the intercooler on the driverside(where the airfilter is) and the rpms would go up when I purged
J
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
FRC, funny thing is i looked at the pics and saw the dust and stuff, i was scrolling down to bust your ***** about cleaning you **** but you covered that! dam you. hehe.
Im looking into a small sneaky pete to put on my track bike, (yhea, its a motor scooter) i bougt it for the track but use it when getting shitfaced in the garage. my car was done so i started modding that. got a little over 5mph with the new mods, now time for juice!
Oh yhea, on topic. I belive Ken sprays for a 30 shot but sees about 50 rwhp. dont quate me tho, im not 100%.
I do believe i will be doing a small shot into each side of mine mainly for summer racing.
Im looking into a small sneaky pete to put on my track bike, (yhea, its a motor scooter) i bougt it for the track but use it when getting shitfaced in the garage. my car was done so i started modding that. got a little over 5mph with the new mods, now time for juice!
Oh yhea, on topic. I belive Ken sprays for a 30 shot but sees about 50 rwhp. dont quate me tho, im not 100%.
I do believe i will be doing a small shot into each side of mine mainly for summer racing.
LOL, I knew someone would call me on it, I will be working on the car today to swap in my Bro's 42.5's SVO injectors(thanks Eric) putting on the steel bracket and cog belt and then get the NoGo tune
installed. I hope then I will be ready for some track action this weekend or next.
Freakin crazy to spray a lil scooter like that, I can only imagine bailing at speed on one of those
I am sure my lil 50hp shot nets me a good 75hp jump, dyno dude wouldn't let me do it on the stock block on his dyno lol.
J
) putting on the steel bracket and cog belt and then get the NoGo tune installed. I hope then I will be ready for some track action this weekend or next.Freakin crazy to spray a lil scooter like that, I can only imagine bailing at speed on one of those
I am sure my lil 50hp shot nets me a good 75hp jump, dyno dude wouldn't let me do it on the stock block on his dyno lol.
J
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I had to call you on it. i think me and you are in clean raced driven car compitition. Most dont look that great. hehe
i want to spray a little shot but dont think it will work well. it does about 30-35 now. on the tires it says do not exceed 25 mph. hehe
im running a little 110 race gas in it to, it smells great. I used to have an old moped when i was about 12, i found myself cleaning the carb with paint thiner and must of had some in the carb still so it reved like mad for a sec, so i put 2 and 2 together took the gas out and filled it with thinner! 55 on the main street near my house, then BOOOMMMM she blew up good, glad it had pedles. hehe, i love tweaking things.l
what up with nogo? you coming here or is he going to you?
i want to spray a little shot but dont think it will work well. it does about 30-35 now. on the tires it says do not exceed 25 mph. hehe
im running a little 110 race gas in it to, it smells great. I used to have an old moped when i was about 12, i found myself cleaning the carb with paint thiner and must of had some in the carb still so it reved like mad for a sec, so i put 2 and 2 together took the gas out and filled it with thinner! 55 on the main street near my house, then BOOOMMMM she blew up good, glad it had pedles. hehe, i love tweaking things.l
what up with nogo? you coming here or is he going to you?
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Originally Posted by kp
The supercharger would heat the nitous pretty well plus I dont think its a good idea to hit a hot impeller spinning at 30,000 rpm plus with cold nitrous. Could be wrong on that but I wouldnt want to try it
Originally Posted by frcefed98
TNT dry kit here. I was doing it on the stock block too. 50hp shot, but with no bottle warmer so the 50hp shot was more like a 35 shot lol. I have the window switch set at 3600-5800. I have it armed when staging and it comes on in first gear. I didn't get a best et due to no traction out of the hole with the N2O spraying and our notoriously ill prepped track, but I did get a 12.2@125mph with a sorry 60ft. My best time and mph without the N2O was 11.3@120, so if you have a good track you will get a good et, I know I would have hit 10's if the traction was there.
Originally Posted by Crunch
Definitely don't spray into the impeller. Vortech doesn't even recommend putting an ice-bag on the impeller. Drastic differences in temperature on an impeller spinning at the speed of sound =
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I just picked up a 5177 kit, I wont use a heater probably so I'll try the 50hp jets first. I'll spray it in every gear and work up the RPM until the maf gets maxed. If I can get .5 in the 1/4 it will be worth it. I am putting on a BMR k-member and all a-arms so that will offset the weight of the bottle in the back. Plus I am switching to ET drags on screwed rims - my ET streets have spun over 360 degrees in 115 passes so I think its time for screws.
If the revs climb a bit while purging thats OK, I was going to spray across the intercooler from the bottom with the purge but to be honest I dont think it will make much difference if I am going to spray it in the plenum so I may just run the purge out the bottom..
I know the car will hook so we'll see what we can do
i have a black car, you dont have to mention the pollen thing - its horrible around here now..
If the revs climb a bit while purging thats OK, I was going to spray across the intercooler from the bottom with the purge but to be honest I dont think it will make much difference if I am going to spray it in the plenum so I may just run the purge out the bottom..
I know the car will hook so we'll see what we can do
i have a black car, you dont have to mention the pollen thing - its horrible around here now..