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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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Hopeless cause. He's not gonna listen.
I actually take everything that people are saying into consideration. To think that it takes $30K+ to hit 8s is pure ignorance. it takes an efficient setup, doing work on your own, careful planning, and thinking outside of the box. Could it be done for $5kish? maybe not, but it can DEFINITELY be done for way less than $30k. i could understand you thinking that i was being ridiculous if i expected it to last years but once i start leaning on it hard i expect it to go. No need ot be so close minded.

Thank you to everyone for their input, I'm curious as to just how light i can get the truck. ill look up Silver_82 for his build and ill look into a blowthrough carb as i dont know much about them. anyone else have any constructive input?
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks for the insight. Safety equipment would be in place but not included in the budget. I do have a good th400 converter already so that would be a freebee. in your experience, how difficult is it to get an s10 to hook at 800+rwhp? I've never built a drag truck (or anything this light) so I have no idea on that one. Part of the idea would be to make it barebones to get it las light as possible. There would be a full cage in the truck as well as a chute. Understand what can happen with a crash at those speeds and that a stock block(let alone a stock bottom end) would be on borrowed time at this level. I would like to get the tru k going on a lower horsepower level and 8.xx be my end goal without buying twice. This will be done all on used parts also to help with the budget
Honestly this is my first s10 build so I'm going to find out what it takes to make them hook. From what I read, most guys are just running caltracs and decent shocks....Pretty much any leaf spring vehicle runs this combo for your stock suspension classes.

If you are using an 8.8 rear you will also need to make sure you buy good axles and some sort of axle retainers. This is another area you don't want to overlook. Breaking an axle without c-clip eliminators or the right housing ends (big Ford ends don't use c-clips) can be dangerous too. Unfortunately these parts are rare to find used and aren't really cheap....do you see how fast things will add up? My list of parts grows on a daily basis almost, and I'm only building a fun street truck with limited track visits.
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In fear of running out of pump I would pick up an Aeromotive eliminator which buy itself is 620. We haven't even got into injectors, tank assembly, or fuel lines. A cage in an 8 second car with a questionable chassis is not something I would skimp on.
Thats actually the exact pump I'm running in my car. Definitely not a budget set up though...
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To run E85 with a big enough pump to make you go 8's you would probably be 2-3k deep alone in a fuel system.
Good guess, I was sure I could come up with something under 2K (1923.00) but not by much add in shipping and it will go over. Makes me wonder how much I got into my system now, didn't really keep track it when I bought the stuff and put it together. LOL

This is what I came up with should be capable and wont get any cheaper for the power level just under 2K on E-85. All are good proven components .

A-1000 can be had for 350.00 http://plumbingmonkey.com/11101-A100...Fcqe4AodlmoAZg
10 AN supply to rails, 6 AN return, + fittings 300.00
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Bosch 160 lb/hr high impedance 912.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOSCH-160LB-1700CC-160-LB-FUEL-INJECTOR-HIGH-IMPEDANCE-EV1-CONNECTOR-/230695412927?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b684a4bf&vxp=mtr

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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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So a 2,000 alone in a fuel system. We haven't bought the motor, truck, turbo, piping yet. Like I said 15k. I ride and drag race bikes and I would much rather go 9's on a bike then 8's in some hacked up S10 without a cage.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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If you go carbed you need a $50 regulator and 2 walbro s, they flow a shitload of fuel at 15-20# pressure
You can get used alcohol carbs off racing junk for 3-400 all day
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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i'm willing to bet it can be done for less than 10k.
my buddy is selling off his 5.3 S10 project.
mint S10, 5.3+4l60, 83.5mm turbo, all piped up and ready for big injectors and whatnot.
3k takes it all, and its an easy 10 second ride no doubt.

i'm in to watch someone do it
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
I actually take everything that people are saying into consideration. To think that it takes $30K+ to hit 8s is pure ignorance. it takes an efficient setup, doing work on your own, careful planning, and thinking outside of the box. Could it be done for $5kish? maybe not, but it can DEFINITELY be done for way less than $30k. i could understand you thinking that i was being ridiculous if i expected it to last years but once i start leaning on it hard i expect it to go. No need ot be so close minded.

Thank you to everyone for their input, I'm curious as to just how light i can get the truck. ill look up Silver_82 for his build and ill look into a blowthrough carb as i dont know much about them. anyone else have any constructive input?
Doing it the right way that will last and not break, all the safety equipment needed to run 8's at the track so you can pass tech inspection, and suspension for hooking will run you that much.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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Any F-bodies guys that are wanting a E85 fuel system solution for 1200rwhp+ that is a drop in in tank solution for your fuel system...email me for information.

I have your answer. For far less than 2k. It's non sponsor so I can't post about it or links.
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Originally Posted by 00MaroonZ28
Doing it the right way that will last and not break, all the safety equipment needed to run 8's at the track so you can pass tech inspection, and suspension for hooking will run you that much.
Who said anything about not blowing the motor? This entire time I've made it clear that it would be on borrowed time at that boost level. And no, the safety equipment and suspension that was mentioned already doesn't bring it up to $30k.
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Getting better and better. Lots of good info.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Who said anything about not blowing the motor? This entire time I've made it clear that it would be on borrowed time at that boost level. And no, the safety equipment and suspension that was mentioned already doesn't bring it up to $30k.
Ya but your an idiot with an idiot thread imho. If I knew who you were and you tried to line up next to me on a regulation track, I would quickly and simply put your front teeth thru the back of your head for attempting to put my life in danger or any other fool around here that wants to try it. Now if this is goofy ls1 tech fantasy talk then lets be queers and talk about it. But I would put your stupid *** in its spot stupid quick, cause I dont like idiots with no brains that think 150 mph is cool in a **** box. There is a reason why a stupid thread exists only on a place called ls1 tech and not one other forum in the whole world. Lol Id mess u up even if you showed up next to me at the local drive in. Also its funny martin from tick is the only sponser dumb enough to say anything imho. Martin you couldnt spec me a freakin vespa cam. Just dont like you either. Guys like you and ls1 tech and one or two of its sponsers will quickly get the govt against new age hot rodders.
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Ya but your an idiot with an idiot thread imho. If I knew who you were and you tried to line up next to me on a regulation track, I would quickly and simply put your front teeth thru the back of your head for attempting to put my life in danger or any other fool around here that wants to try it. Now if this is goofy ls1 tech fantasy talk then lets be queers and talk about it. But I would put your stupid *** in its spot stupid quick, cause I dont like idiots with no brains that think 150 mph is cool in a **** box. There is a reason why a stupid thread exists only on a place called ls1 tech and not one other forum in the whole world. Lol Id mess u up even if you showed up next to me at the local drive in. Also its funny martin from tick is the only sponser dumb enough to say anything imho. Martin you couldnt spec me a freakin vespa cam. Just dont like you either. Guys like you and ls1 tech and one or two of its sponsers will quickly get the govt against new age hot rodders.
I'm sorry you feel that way.

Question though, what is it that I do that will get the government against new age hot rodders?

How does the thread go from "how cheap to hit 8's" to "this is how much a fuel system costs" to "Martin at Tick is an idiot for making one post?"
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by S10LSa
Ya but your an idiot with an idiot thread imho. If I knew who you were and you tried to line up next to me on a regulation track, I would quickly and simply put your front teeth thru the back of your head for attempting to put my life in danger or any other fool around here that wants to try it. Now if this is goofy ls1 tech fantasy talk then lets be queers and talk about it. But I would put your stupid *** in its spot stupid quick, cause I dont like idiots with no brains that think 150 mph is cool in a **** box. There is a reason why a stupid thread exists only on a place called ls1 tech and not one other forum in the whole world. Lol Id mess u up even if you showed up next to me at the local drive in. Also its funny martin from tick is the only sponser dumb enough to say anything imho. Martin you couldnt spec me a freakin vespa cam. Just dont like you either. Guys like you and ls1 tech and one or two of its sponsers will quickly get the govt against new age hot rodders.
Martin was simply saying that there is a fuel system that supports that much hp for a great price. Nothing else that you said is worth commenting on.

Thanks for the input Martin, I'm interested in the fuel system for my Camaro.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Ya but your an idiot with an idiot thread imho. If I knew who you were and you tried to line up next to me on a regulation track, I would quickly and simply put your front teeth thru the back of your head for attempting to put my life in danger or any other fool around here that wants to try it. Now if this is goofy ls1 tech fantasy talk then lets be queers and talk about it. But I would put your stupid *** in its spot stupid quick, cause I dont like idiots with no brains that think 150 mph is cool in a **** box. There is a reason why a stupid thread exists only on a place called ls1 tech and not one other forum in the whole world. Lol Id mess u up even if you showed up next to me at the local drive in. Also its funny martin from tick is the only sponser dumb enough to say anything imho. Martin you couldnt spec me a freakin vespa cam. Just dont like you either. Guys like you and ls1 tech and one or two of its sponsers will quickly get the govt against new age hot rodders.
and your an idiot with a junk s10 so what is your point.
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Originally Posted by S10LSa
Ya but your an idiot with an idiot thread imho. If I knew who you were and you tried to line up next to me on a regulation track, I would quickly and simply put your front teeth thru the back of your head for attempting to put my life in danger or any other fool around here that wants to try it. Now if this is goofy ls1 tech fantasy talk then lets be queers and talk about it. But I would put your stupid *** in its spot stupid quick, cause I dont like idiots with no brains that think 150 mph is cool in a **** box. There is a reason why a stupid thread exists only on a place called ls1 tech and not one other forum in the whole world. Lol Id mess u up even if you showed up next to me at the local drive in. Also its funny martin from tick is the only sponser dumb enough to say anything imho. Martin you couldnt spec me a freakin vespa cam. Just dont like you either. Guys like you and ls1 tech and one or two of its sponsers will quickly get the govt against new age hot rodders.
Wow, why all the hostility there internet warrior, especially toward a sponsor that bends over backwards and spends his free time helping others out with his knowledge. If you paid any attention you might realize that.

Besides I have put my car in the beams many times against some thrown together piles of crap that's racing especially at the grass roots level not every body has 30K to build a 8 second car, Ive beat them and got beat by them, you afraid someones piece will out run you?

I don't think 5K is doable going the turbo route, that being said I think just over 10K on a junk yard motor could be in a gutted S10 cage, shocks, caltracks, junk yard 8.8 with c clip eliminator, and a glide with a S480 and all.

Ill entertain the budget 8 sec legal S10.
I think this combo would be able to obtain the 8 second goal at a 2800 2nd gen, or 2700 1st gen pound race weight, keeping stock glass and steel.

Junk Yard 5.3 with intake and ECU 800.00
The fuel system I listed previously 1923.00
2.25" primary's mild steel mandrels and a T6 flange used brand name or ebay waste gate. 400.00
5" downpipe straight out the fender 100.00
S480 turbo 925.00 shipped.
Power glide since the truck is so light, can pick them up used on the bullet for 750-1500 depending on how nasty you want it.
Converter can be had from a local to me non sponsor builder for 700.00
8.5 cert capable cage from a non sponsor for S10 500 plus shipping.
Fabricate driveshaft 150.00
5 point harness 80.00
Window net 50.00
LS9 head gaskets 120.00
KMJ studs 100.00
Radiator 200.00
QA1 double adj shocks front 250 or 300 lb spring 650.00
Caltracs can be had for 350.00
Drag race wheels tires grabbed used for 600.00
EFI live and wide band 900.00
8.8 with axles and C clip eliminators 800.00
Frozen Boost A2W 3.5" drag setup 450.00
Cold side 3.5" piping 150.00


Total 10,278.00
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Wow, why all the hostility there internet warrior, especially toward a sponsor that bends over backwards and spends his free time helping others out with his knowledge. If you paid any attention you might realize that.

Besides I have put my car in the beams many times against some thrown together piles of crap that's racing especially at the grass roots level not every body has 30K to build a 8 second car, Ive beat them and got beat by them, you afraid someones piece will out run you?

I don't think 5K is doable going the turbo route, that being said I think just over 10K on a junk yard motor could be in a gutted S10 cage, shocks, caltracks, junk yard 8.8 with c clip eliminator, and a glide with a S480 and all.

Ill entertain the budget 8 sec legal S10.
I think this combo would be able to obtain the 8 second goal at a 2800 2nd gen, or 2700 1st gen pound race weight, keeping stock glass and steel.

Junk Yard 5.3 with intake and ECU 800.00
The fuel system I listed previously 1923.00
2.25" primary's mild steel mandrels and a T6 flange used brand name or ebay waste gate. 400.00
5" downpipe straight out the fender 100.00
S480 turbo 925.00 shipped.
Power glide since the truck is so light, can pick them up used on the bullet for 750-1500 depending on how nasty you want it.
Converter can be had from a local to me non sponsor builder for 700.00
8.5 cert capable cage from a non sponsor for S10 500 plus shipping.
Fabricate driveshaft 150.00
5 point harness 80.00
Window net 50.00
LS9 head gaskets 120.00
KMJ studs 100.00
Radiator 200.00
QA1 double adj shocks front 250 or 300 lb spring 650.00
Caltracs can be had for 350.00
Drag race wheels tires grabbed used for 600.00
EFI live and wide band 900.00
8.8 with axles and C clip eliminators 800.00
Frozen Boost A2W 3.5" drag setup 450.00
Cold side 3.5" piping 150.00


Total 10,278.00
Thanks for entertaining the idea. I think that shopping for used parts, and going with e85 would eliminate the cold side piping and the intercooler.
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Originally Posted by dckmn52
my buddy is selling off his 5.3 S10 project.
mint S10, 5.3+4l60, 83.5mm turbo, all piped up and ready for big injectors and whatnot.
3k takes it all, and its an easy 10 second ride no doubt.
I want it. Your friend have it listed somewhere?
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Thanks for entertaining the idea. I think that shopping for used parts, and going with e85 would eliminate the cold side piping and the intercooler.
You could get away without it for a little, engine life will be a lot shorter without it. You could always go with meth a lot classes allow meth or intercooler, not both, some dont like meth at all, a intercooler is always allowed and the frozen boost setup works great and has very little pressure drop.
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