Cold side and intercooler can be bought for under 300 so used parts will save the most money

This thread is going exactly where we all thought it would go haha its entertaining at least

 

Hell happen to this guy^ LOL

 

I think It was more of a close examination of what a car would cost to make it go fast not just a blatent statement of cost. To the OP if you go 8's with 5g your a badass. If you go 9's or heck even 10's with 5g you had a lot of fun with a small investment.

 

����haha, would think it coud be done for 10k give or take. I'd like to see him at least try in though, but why waste the coin on e85 and not just throw some c16 in it, because I'm sure he can throw a fuel system in it for under a grand.

 

And isn't that what it's all about? Everything that I've raced I've made faster until it couldn't hook anymore then sunk more money into the chassis (or once they started kicking me out) ill see how fast the initial investment will take me then go from there. Ill bargain hunt and keep track of my spending and hopefully hit my goal while spending less than the average joe. Remember that I'm starting with an s10 that I'm getting for $300 and a $500 motor haha. Even with just the 5.3 swap it'll be fun and I can't wait to see how far I push it. Ill brush up on wiring, welding, tuning, and everything else that you can think of by building this budget setup. If I don't meet my goals or I blow it up then I don't care because its cheap. I'd rather not mess up my forged short block or $1400 turbo just to learn more.

 

Completely missed this! What injector could be gotten away with on c16 rather than e85? I do have c16 readily available also.

 

On C16 you could run 80 lb siemens run the cheap ebay rails and get a cheaper regulator and the fuel system would be about 900 dollars then. C16 is expensive though about 100 gallons or a season and you have cought up to the E85 fuel system cost.

 

Well I'm into my build for about 1200-1500 just on turbo parts(it's all eBay stuff), Im pretty sure the 80lbers and twin 255's should make it to 9-1000 hp, but I don't need that much power on the street, when my buddy's that make 730whp and 850whp most of the time just paint the highway with black stripes lol.

 

I only care about the power being there at the track and i know that it's like $16 a gallon. Definitely a less expensive setup though. These are the kinds ideas that I was looking for.

 

Keep in mind you would have to have a couple of different tunes one for the street and 93 with less timing. One for the track for the C16 which would have to be adjusted every track outing because the octane will be a little different due to having verying amounts of residual 93. Your own laptop and tuning software would be a must.

 

I just received a very interesting PM from the guy with the S-10. I don't think he likes me.

 

Think?? Lol what an ******* just ignore people like that Martin keep doing what your doing because you have many happy customers

 

All I asked him was to please not message me anymore. I do not wish to converse with people that want to attack me personally, and don't even know me personally.

It is very frustrating to me to see people attack me when all I want to do is help the people on this website and other websites I am a member of.

It makes you feel like the work you're doing for the ones that do appreciate it is a slap in the face when you're called a "scab salesman that doesn't have anyone's best intentions at heart."

Is it Friday yet?

 

Where do these people come up with these prices? lol. Putting $5k into it to run 8's is doable.... IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. The less you know the more you'll pay. Keep the thing under 3000lbs and shop around for used stuff.

FANTAZ posted his car went 8.60's with the stock fuel lines and 2 walbros. Can anyone explain why you need a $2-3k. fuel system?

 

If you chose to run E-85 looks like you would have to get up close to 2K due to the higher fuel demand I threw together a quick list of stuff that is E85 compatible and capable and was just shy of 2K, granted if you shopped around for that stuff used it would be cheaper no doubt. That being said on race gas it can be done for under 1000.00 I built my fuel system for about 650 with twin walboros/ rails./ AEM regulator 8AN supply stock feed as return. With good used stuff on a S10 combo like the OP's it could be done for just under 6K, with the safety equipment, no safety equipment I could go 8's for right at 5K.

 

Sorry that you got brought into this Martin. It was really supposed to be more of a "How inexpensive can it be done" thread. Thanks for your input anyway though. When you get a chance can you shoot me a PM about that fuel system?

 

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As for the fuel system, If you go with a metal tank in an f-body or with the s10, the same metal sending unit can hold 3 walbro's which I think would be good enough with e85 to feed this setup. New Era Perfromance used to sell them for 99 bucks shipped. Here you go.

http://www.neweraperformanceparts.co...mart&Itemid=54

Here is the 2 tank setup from Mightymouse. You can add a 3rd pump in there if look closely that aluminum fitting has a 3rd port. Mightymouse added a 3rd pump later when he wanted to go faster.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/15596815-post65.html

 

Big difference between talking about it and doing it! I’m close to doing it myself… and the car is street legal/driven.

You’d need to be a competent fabricator/tuner. Then have a decent place to work setup with all the tools of the trade.

IMHO the S10 (even stripped) is still too heavy to do it easily. Power to weight is your best friend racing on a budget. A built motor isn’t required as has been proven many times over. OEM 6.0 with a cam HG and studs could make the power easily. A 5.3 or a 4.8 can make the power if your light enough.

I don’t have the money people are claiming is necessary for a fuel system. And I'm on e85. A home built blow-thru setup on 100% methanol would be the cheapest and most effective fuel system IMHO. The new 450 ethanol walbro pumps are pretty amazing. 2 of them would supply you with enough power fuel injected or carb'd.

Finding a light chassis that’s ready to go would be the easiest route. I'd be looking for sub 2600lbs. Lighter the better.

Paid 3k for my 79 rx7 roller. 2640lbs had the cage 9” rear, mini tubs, wheels tires.


3k - Car
$250 – 160k 5.3 (2003) Had 2 cracked pistons, slapped in 2 random 5.3 pistons for ($25) All original short block
$100 – 317 heads (used)
$210- ZR1 cam, front pickup timing cover, timing set
$200- Fbody oil pan, pulleys, intake manifold
$125- PAC1218 springs
$800 - power glide (stock case and 1.76 gear set, beefed up with additional clutch packs bands clutches/steels)
$950- PTC custom converter
$600- AEM EMS gen1
$350- 120lb injectors (used off brand)
$350- used magnafuel prostar750 pump
$175- Mallory Regulator

$700- BW S400sx3 (75mm)
$150- IC shipped
$200- HEAD studs (local cheap score)
$120- LS9 HG (local cheap score)
$50- China 50mm BOV
$50- china 50mm WG
$65- cold side piping
$60- hotside piping
$50- vbands
$80- couplings
$50 AN fittings

About $5500 total

$1000 gauges filters gaskets and misc crap…

$6500ish + 3k for the car. About 10k total and a shyt ton of labor/wiring/tuning on my end.

I think I will be able to kiss the 8 second range this year if I can get the 60’ down to 1.3x range, drop a few lbs, and up the boost.

Best of 9.44 @ 148 so far with a lazy 1.5 60’.

Others have done more with less! This was my first LS build so my combo is a FAR cry from optimal, but it was cheap and I did most of it myself.

 

It's not your fault by any means! Just send me an email and I'll get you the information.

 

I managed to find 160 lb injectors new for $300 and a used eliminator pump for about the same. Shop around for a used s480 and you are most of the way there for fuel and turbo. It will be hard for under 5k, but shopping and scrounging helps! Suspension and fittings will be tough, but if you shop you might find them cheap too!