Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Intercoolers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:13 AM
  #1  
Monte4ever's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 4
From: MI
Default Intercoolers

I have a CXracing 24x12" core intercooler and was looking into a Bell unit with the same size core (center outlets). For the price (1000+) do you think its that much better than my current cooler? IATs run in the 180s on a not to hot day (75*) by the end of the quarter so I'm looking to bring them down.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:23 AM
  #2  
Slowhawk's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 6
From: Bridgewater,Ma
Default

How much power?
I run a CX 24x12x4 but made new end tanks. Mounted out front with a ton of airflow but with my 1000+rwhp we run meth too. So the intercooler takes a good amount of heat out. End of a run my intake is 90 degree's.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 01:08 PM
  #3  
TNTramair's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,743
Likes: 1
From: ne philly
Default

they may drop but i dont know if the amount of drop in iat's you get would justify spending that kinda money. there was a thread on here not too long ago, big discussion on intercoolers, might want to search for it. alot of good info in there.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 01:19 PM
  #4  
T/ALT1's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 852
Likes: 2
Default

Just add a meth kit and save yourself $700 or so. If you want to change, I would go ahead and go to water/ air intercooler. You can buy a CX Racing water to air intercooler, waterpump and radiator for about $500 total.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 01:29 PM
  #5  
Monte4ever's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 4
From: MI
Default

Originally Posted by Slowhawk
How much power?
I run a CX 24x12x4 but made new end tanks. Mounted out front with a ton of airflow but with my 1000+rwhp we run meth too. So the intercooler takes a good amount of heat out. End of a run my intake is 90 degree's.
I'm looking for 750-800rwhp when alls said and done with my 403/F1a pushing 13 to 15psi. I have a AIS trunk mount meth kit but I figured the intercooler would help. I had two #7 nozzles and the temp only dropped 10* or so. That was with a 50/50 mix BTW.

Last edited by Monte4ever; Oct 4, 2013 at 01:34 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 01:41 PM
  #6  
T/ALT1's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 852
Likes: 2
Default

The water/air cooler would be more efficient, drop the temps more and cost half the price. Jmo
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 02:31 PM
  #7  
SPRAYED 01's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,677
Likes: 2
From: Northwest side of Chicago
Default

I run a cx 24 12 4 ic. I was seeing 150 by the end of the quarter. With a single m15 nozzle 12 inches from the iat i was at 79 at the end.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2013 | 03:07 PM
  #8  
Slowhawk's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 6
From: Bridgewater,Ma
Default

Originally Posted by Monte4ever
I'm looking for 750-800rwhp when alls said and done with my 403/F1a pushing 13 to 15psi. I have a AIS trunk mount meth kit but I figured the intercooler would help. I had two #7 nozzles and the temp only dropped 10* or so. That was with a 50/50 mix BTW.
We have a few cars built like that and the temps are not as high as yours.
Is the bypass valve before the cooler? This will help heat soak.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 5, 2013 | 10:26 AM
  #9  
THADD's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 747
Likes: 0
From: Durham
Default

I have a build thread going on in this section. Go to it and read the last 3 pages or so. Lots of good info on the Bell intercooler I had made. FYI.....go Bell intercooler, vertical style. End of story.
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 08:52 PM
  #10  
LS1NOVA's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,269
Likes: 12
From: Minneapolis,MN
Default

Bell vertical= the best.
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2013 | 04:31 AM
  #11  
THADD's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 747
Likes: 0
From: Durham
Default

Originally Posted by LS1NOVA
Bell vertical= the best.
Truth my man
Reply
Old Oct 8, 2013 | 08:48 AM
  #12  
Anti_Venom99's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 115
Likes: 0
Default

403 + F1 doesnt equal 750whp... Seems like a ton of overkill. You could make that with a Ysi or even a D1. Id say its a waste if thats all you are trying to make.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:12 PM
  #13  
Monte4ever's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 4
From: MI
Default

Originally Posted by Slowhawk
We have a few cars built like that and the temps are not as high as yours.
Is the bypass valve before the cooler? This will help heat soak.
Its after the intercooler. I may run a three nozzle kit that AIS spec'ed out for me which includes a "large" nozzle (thier words) before the Procharger.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:18 PM
  #14  
Monte4ever's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,160
Likes: 4
From: MI
Default

Originally Posted by Anti_Venom99
403 + F1 doesnt equal 750whp... Seems like a ton of overkill. You could make that with a Ysi or even a D1. Id say its a waste if thats all you are trying to make.
I'm just guess-ta-mating on the low end when it comes to the power numbers. Its pullied to max out at 7000ish rpms but I shift at 6600 so I believe that the numbers should be greater. But if not 750/800 will be acceptable lol.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:00 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE