DEFYANT

Send the Super Victor to Aaron at 6061, have him do a dual Injector setup, then run a dual 127s and a Dominator... Expensive, but no need to cheap out now.

allout06

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No, just the 160lb high z and the high z 2000cc injectors from FIC.

Sarg

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So basically the safe choices for e85 are low-z injectors, Siemens 80s, and the various Bosch 95 and 127 lb injectors correct?

allout06

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Yea, that looks like thats about it. Unfortunately.... some people do have good luck with the CNG injectors though it seems like. Imma take the chance with mine.

Joe6pt0

It will be close. Right now I run base 60psi but I'm 1:1 regulated to 15psi so the 127# will flow more at 75psi at peak boost which should be just enough to keep me just below 100% Duty Cycle at 940-975rwhp. I can increase base to 70psi if I must but will try 60psi at first.


No

I'm not really interested in complex setups and I like using the factory ECU for tuning. Mine isn't a drag car and I take it on long trips (like Hot Rod Power Tour) and want to keep things simple for those reasons.

This is why I'm staying away from a low impendance driver box for low-Z injectors. This would be the route I would go if I need more fuel. At some point there will be a 160-200lb injector that is High-Z and not CNG out there. I've heard of several companies working on these now. They should be available before I have the need for more than the 127s so it should time out just right and if not then the driver box will be the way I go.

allout06

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Keep in mind joe that they are 127lb at 4 bar and not 3.

Joe6pt0

^--For sure. And I'll be starting with a base of 60, just over the 4 bar rating and can raise that if I need to so hopefully I'll be ok.

transam69230

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Where is FIC in this thread? I would like to hear what they have to say about their FIC2000s and e85. This has me worried for sure, as this is the injector I am running.

On FICs website they say they have a 3yr warranty so if there is an issue then they should be taking care of this regardless of the fuel type.

asubennett

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I had FIC2000 injectors in a 800AWHP Evo for a while. E85 from one gas station would leave the injectors clean for month after month after month. E85 from another gas station would clog them up pretty dang quickly. I understand some gas stations put the same additiives in E85 that they do in their pump fuel and with E85 it does not go well.

And FYI, these High Z Bosch injectors are Alcohol fuel compatible for our cars. See link.

http://www.boschdealer.com/product/1...or-0280158827/

Product Description

160lb/hour Bosch Fuel Injector with EV1 Connector – 0280158827

Genuine Bosch 1700 cc/min ( 160 lb/hr ) High Impedance Injectors ( Alcohol Compatible )

These injectors flow 1700 cc/min at 43.5 PSI ( 3 BAR ) and are fully compatible with alternate fuels and alcohol! These new injectors from Bosch represent the next generation of high flow injector technology with fast response times, excellent flow pattern and compact design. The price and performance that these injectors represent to the performance aftermarket is unparalleled.

These injectors are able to function at high fuel pressures and don’t exhibit the high fuel pressure handling problems found with many other high flow high-impedance injectors. This makes these injectors very well suited to turbocharged and supercharged applications that see high fuel system pressures.

Features:
Genuine, reliable, new Bosch Injectors
Excellent response characteristics
Robust Design
High Impedance

Specifications:
Coil Resistance: 9.1 Ohms / High Impedance
Dead Time: 0.45ms at 14 volts
Static Flow Rate @ 43.5 PSI ( 300kPa ) w/Gas: 1700 cc/min = 160 lb/hr
Static Flow Rate @ 50 PSI ( 350kPa ) w/Gas: 1875 cc/min = 180 lb/hr
Static Flow Rate @ 58 PSI ( 400kPa ) w/Gas: 2000 cc/min = 195 lb/hr
Connector: Bosch EV1
Injector Length: O-Ring to O-Ring: 62 mm
Injector Overall Length: 74 mm
Injector Body Diameter: 16mm
O-Ring: 14.5mm Viton
Acceptable Fuels: Gas/Petrol, alcohol/methanol, E85, CNG

Anchor

I did have FIC2000's but my box containing my fuel system has gone missing so I get a chance to buy stuff again...

Would I be better off going these bosch ones? Will only make around 1400 at the engine max.. Stock ecu. HP tuners. Flex fuel sensor in a split return line. Cable driven pump.

asubennett

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I don't have any experience with these new BSH 1600CC injectors but I ordered some for my twin 70mm build on a 370. I am using Holley HP and am semi kicking myself for not using the Seimens 220's since the Holley can drive LowZ. But I think a High Z will always idle better and this car will see a lot of street time.

White Fire'99

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Those are the modified CNG injector 827's. Stay Away!

rotary1307cc

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yes, correct

those are worse than the 2k injectors, those have a known sensitivity to fuel temperature as stated above

ezstriper

I can say this after 2 seasons with bosch 160's mine still very clean...now it's not a street car...but idles like a stocker...

DBRODS

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I just checked mine and they still look brand new.. Over a yr and 5k miles. FIC2000s and nothing but E85 from HEB and some random fillups at TX2k13 in Houston.

Joe6pt0

I've got my brand new set for sale here:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...brand-new.html

skinnies

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I have no issues with idle on the siemen 220's.

allout06

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Thats good to hear. Its got to be the cleanliness of the E85. Is there a way to test for cleanliness.

Sarg

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Think it is the additives in the fuel. I have seen tons of threads about the ID1000s having issues in other motors too and I ran them for 2 years without issue in my Subaru. Yet you see pics of junked up ID1000s on the net too.

offaxis

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I'm wondering if the e85 is eating up the fuel lines on some of these cars and clogging injectors. Just a thought