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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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i have a stock cube LS1 full bolt ons, H/C and also have a procharger p1sc head unit but nothing else but the bare headunit with no pulleys, brackets, plumbing etc.

i was thinking of putting together a low buck FI setup with this headunit and peacing the rest together low buck style over the winter. i was thinking no intercooler to keep the costs down but with the option too later. what parts and bits do i need besides the J bracket and pulleys to put this together myself over the winter.

the car/motor is a 99 with Futral F14 cam, stg 2 heads, Fast/NW 90mm, ewp, QTP LT's, 80lb injectors, 4" exhaust w/ no cats, t56, stock short block.

stock comp. ratio and i only run 92 -94 octane gas.

what size pulleys should i run to keep boost at a safe temp. with no intercooler?

what kind of performance can i expect?
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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EBay intercoolers are cheap and might save your engine. No reason to not get one.
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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You can get one for $150 and its needed. Don't cheap out on that.
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i was talking with a buddy of mine who is an engineer at a top tier automotive supplier (not gonna say names hes prob on here) and hes confident that under 10 lb of boost or so its safe to run without an intercooler.

i also have a direct port nitrous kit nib but our thinking was that for less money then the install of the Fast direct port we can get a 100hp from the P1sc with good gas, good tune, and 7-8 lbs of boost and have it all the time not have to fill bottles and the other big reason is that i dont drive the car enough to justify spending a dollar more then i have too considering where else i could be spending it.

has anyone else done something similar? i know more then a few rear mount turbo guys that didnt run I/C.

besides the head unit mounting bracket, a couple pulleys, some tubing, rubber connectors, what else do i need to cobble this together? at that low a boost do i need a BOV?
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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If you wanna leave a ton of power on the table and live on the edge, then non-intercooled is definitely the way to go!
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Well in that case just custom fab up the piping from the blower to the tb. Its self oiling so no lines or anything. Let it rip.

Might want to tune it if you want to spend the money.
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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intercoolers are like 65 bucks ebay, i did one non intercooled iats where 170 ish put that cheepo intercooler on there dropped them down to 105 ish .. then used meth dropped it even more ..
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You could just do a good progressive meth kit. AEM makes a good one that's pretty reasonably priced. If you have the skill to do the fab work, I would still add an intercooler.
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You could just do a good progressive meth kit. AEM makes a good one that's pretty reasonably priced. If you have the skill to do the fab work, I would still add an intercooler.
^^^^This.
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