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Old 02-19-2014, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by geoff17
What would be the benefit of that?
You leave in a 1.48:1 gear instead of a 2.48:1

Basically like having a powerglide. It softens the launch, you can ramp in alot more power. it wont make a difference for most cars, but if youre over 1000rwhp, 2.48 is really too much gearing. some people are swapping them out for 2.10's but theyre pricy.

I think I can wire the switch for 3rd and leave shifter in 2nd and launch this way.
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Originally Posted by ae86cp
Are you using a switch/button to force 3rd on the line to stall/spool then release to drop down to 2nd and leaving off the line in 2nd? I don't know if I read your posts correctly, but it seems that you are dropping from 3rd to 2nd to launch off the line instead of going back to 1st.
Before wiring the switch up I would just leave in 2nd gear since I could stall up higher in 2nd and have 1-2psi vs a low stall and 0psi in first. Now with my button wired up I just leave the shifter in D and hold the button and stall it up and build boost then release button and it drops back to 1st.
Old 04-18-2014, 01:49 AM
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So, how does everyone feel about the reliability of this? Anybody blown their trans up yet?
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Originally Posted by kelsey_canard
So, how does everyone feel about the reliability of this? Anybody blown their trans up yet?
Mine's still holding up decent so far.
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In for updates and Denmah if you feel there are any advantages to using a relay vs. just using a push button to engage 3rd?

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Originally Posted by geoff17
Before wiring the switch up I would just leave in 2nd gear since I could stall up higher in 2nd and have 1-2psi vs a low stall and 0psi in first. Now with my button wired up I just leave the shifter in D and hold the button and stall it up and build boost then release button and it drops back to 1st.
So are you just grounding the 3rd gear shift solenoid via a switch?
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Originally Posted by Sarg
In for updates and Denmah if you feel there are any advantages to using a relay vs. just using a push button to engage 3rd?

i wasnt able to trip it correctly with just a button, might have been because of the codes in the ECU getting upset, or it could be because its not breaking the connection, just adding a ground to the wire already setup for grounding.

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So are you just grounding the 3rd gear shift solenoid via a switch?
i use a switch, to trigger a 5 wire relay, it disconnects the normal operating wire and throws it to ground manually, so when you come off the switch the trans works normally after you switch back, wich it needs to complete its shifts after
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Gotcha. Is it still working well for you or have you sold that project?
Old 08-26-2014, 08:12 PM
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yeah this car has been gone for a while but no one has reported failures yet
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Originally Posted by denmah
i wasnt able to trip it correctly with just a button, might have been because of the codes in the ECU getting upset, or it could be because its not breaking the connection, just adding a ground to the wire already setup for grounding.



i use a switch, to trigger a 5 wire relay, it disconnects the normal operating wire and throws it to ground maeco from. nually, so when you come off the switch the trans works normally after you switch back, wich it needs to complete its shifts after
You could try simulating the resistance of of the solenoid with some heavy duty resistors to see if that keeps the ecu from throwing codes when you ground the ecu
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it was really easy to wire the 5 wire, and then turn off like 3 codes, works great after that haha
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Talked to the guys at North Texas Converter about this before pulling the trigger. They said that for a stock trans it may or may not be the best. But for one that has been modified for a trans brake (which they say theirs and the Jakes stage II like I have) all get the modification regardless of if it gets the trans brake or not. I am not entirely sure of the inner workings of the transmission, but it is good to hear that with the transmission I have it is not in any real danger, or no more than a trans brake would put it in.

That being said mine got pretty darn hot quickly playing around with pulling against 3rd when manually commanded. It built around 7 or 8 psi very easily even with my nitto 555r tires on the car and never pushed through. I am in the process of wiring up the sloppy transbrake this week and hope, weather permitting, to get to test it at the track this weekend.
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oh yeah it will make it hot! but it works! haha
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Hope to have some video here soon! Going out to the garage now to finish the install while I have daylight.
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Driveway testing. S480 t6 92mm turbine, 5.3 and the sloppy brake. I had the 2 step turned off for this. Going to have to lower it considerably in order to use this without just demolishing the tires. 15ish psi at 3800 rpms, haha.

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Old 09-24-2014, 09:43 PM
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aww yeah its a beast! it works so good!
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What Sarg??? You don't imagine a launch at 15 psi would go well? LOL
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Well Denmah did say his wastegates were opening on his launch. Guess I just do not have as much confidence as he does, lol.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
What Sarg??? You don't imagine a launch at 15 psi would go well? LOL
It could......but the suspension and everything would have to be setup real well I'm sure.
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I don't think my car is to that level at this point. I have some decent parts, but nothing crazy and it really has never seen the kind of power that I will be throwing at it tomorrow.


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