Boost Controllers That Aren't For Street Cars
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20 oz bottle will last over 50 passes at the track with plenty to spare...
guys are getting a full race season and then some out of 20 oz
a 5lb bottle is 4x as much.....
I think it is fair to say it will last quite a long time
and you can get it refilled at any paintball shop
guys are getting a full race season and then some out of 20 oz
a 5lb bottle is 4x as much.....
I think it is fair to say it will last quite a long time
and you can get it refilled at any paintball shop
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5lb co2 bottle is the same size and weight as a 5lb nitrous bottle, it just as a slightly different valve design
holders for the bottle depend on how you want to mount it...they dont weigh anything worth mentioning usually
the Viair 450c weighs 11lbs....
so again...not very much
they sell a version that comes with a little 2.5lb tank..they market that one to use with Air nailers and Air Riverters for portable construction work.
holders for the bottle depend on how you want to mount it...they dont weigh anything worth mentioning usually
the Viair 450c weighs 11lbs....
so again...not very much
they sell a version that comes with a little 2.5lb tank..they market that one to use with Air nailers and Air Riverters for portable construction work.
5-10 lb i thought would be nitrous sized
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x100 the boost leash is very easy to hook up and controls boost VERY well even based on manifold pressure. I drive mine on the street plenty and the boost leash is very easy to use and is very accurate.
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The two you mention are largely aimed at drag use. Not just big power.
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Well I'm still new to all this. But all I want besides the ability to control boost levels is just the ability to quickly change the boost. If I wanted to slow the car down for a street race then turn around and turn it back up that is what I'm looking for.
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So a simple high and low setting ?
Maybe 2, 3, 4 settings ? ie static boost levels.
Not boost vs speed, boost vs rpm, boost vs gear etc ? These latter options requiring more expensive controllers.
If all you wanted was 2 easy boost levels, then there are plenty of options.
Turbosmarts E-Boost street is a simple one, and circa $300 ( there are of course other sellers and prices, it just appeared on google. Some cheaper than $300 on Amazon )
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...category%3D264
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-street
Turbosmarts E-Boost 2 is popular and bloody good. More expensive, but it will allow you 4 different boost settings.
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
Seems to be around $450 on Amazon.
Maybe 2, 3, 4 settings ? ie static boost levels.
Not boost vs speed, boost vs rpm, boost vs gear etc ? These latter options requiring more expensive controllers.
If all you wanted was 2 easy boost levels, then there are plenty of options.
Turbosmarts E-Boost street is a simple one, and circa $300 ( there are of course other sellers and prices, it just appeared on google. Some cheaper than $300 on Amazon )
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...category%3D264
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-street
Turbosmarts E-Boost 2 is popular and bloody good. More expensive, but it will allow you 4 different boost settings.
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
Seems to be around $450 on Amazon.
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So a simple high and low setting ?
Maybe 2, 3, 4 settings ? ie static boost levels.
Not boost vs speed, boost vs rpm, boost vs gear etc ? These latter options requiring more expensive controllers.
If all you wanted was 2 easy boost levels, then there are plenty of options.
Turbosmarts E-Boost street is a simple one, and circa $300 ( there are of course other sellers and prices, it just appeared on google. Some cheaper than $300 on Amazon )
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...category%3D264
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-street
Turbosmarts E-Boost 2 is popular and bloody good. More expensive, but it will allow you 4 different boost settings.
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
Seems to be around $450 on Amazon.
Maybe 2, 3, 4 settings ? ie static boost levels.
Not boost vs speed, boost vs rpm, boost vs gear etc ? These latter options requiring more expensive controllers.
If all you wanted was 2 easy boost levels, then there are plenty of options.
Turbosmarts E-Boost street is a simple one, and circa $300 ( there are of course other sellers and prices, it just appeared on google. Some cheaper than $300 on Amazon )
http://www.boostcontroller.com/index...category%3D264
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-street
Turbosmarts E-Boost 2 is popular and bloody good. More expensive, but it will allow you 4 different boost settings.
http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/e-boost-2
Seems to be around $450 on Amazon.
#52
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ie true boost vs gear, boost vs speed, boost vs rpm. Or any one or combination of those ?
Simply targeting and holding a single boost pressure per setting is pretty easy for almost any controller to do and there are a myriad of controllers out there that can do that.
#53
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It will do any type of boost control strategy you can think of. Speed, time, time by gear, engine rpm, turboshaft speed, drive shaft speed, tps, gps or a combination of every single one of them.
Offered in a pro platform with full datalogging and gmeter and a base unit which can be updated to a pro at any time.
Lots of street cars are using it and absolutely love it.
All of our controllers can be used with manifold pressure as the supply source.
It will do any type of boost control strategy you can think of. Speed, time, time by gear, engine rpm, turboshaft speed, drive shaft speed, tps, gps or a combination of every single one of them.
Offered in a pro platform with full datalogging and gmeter and a base unit which can be updated to a pro at any time.
Lots of street cars are using it and absolutely love it.
All of our controllers can be used with manifold pressure as the supply source.
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From a simplicity point of view though....yes boost by mph etc will be easy.
But how does your unit determine gear ? Looking at your site, looks like you still want some sort of mechanical switches etc fitted in order to provide a voltage to your control unit ?
Seeing as it has the ability to accept a speed signal...and engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, whatever
Why not include in the software the ability to determine gear from the information ? Or easier still for a lot of modern cars, if you could pick up the data from OBD sources.
Would really make for an easy plug n play install
But how does your unit determine gear ? Looking at your site, looks like you still want some sort of mechanical switches etc fitted in order to provide a voltage to your control unit ?
Seeing as it has the ability to accept a speed signal...and engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, whatever
Why not include in the software the ability to determine gear from the information ? Or easier still for a lot of modern cars, if you could pick up the data from OBD sources.
Would really make for an easy plug n play install
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From a simplicity point of view though....yes boost by mph etc will be easy.
But how does your unit determine gear ? Looking at your site, looks like you still want some sort of mechanical switches etc fitted in order to provide a voltage to your control unit ?
Seeing as it has the ability to accept a speed signal...and engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, whatever
Why not include in the software the ability to determine gear from the information ? Or easier still for a lot of modern cars, if you could pick up the data from OBD sources.
Would really make for an easy plug n play install
But how does your unit determine gear ? Looking at your site, looks like you still want some sort of mechanical switches etc fitted in order to provide a voltage to your control unit ?
Seeing as it has the ability to accept a speed signal...and engine rpm, driveshaft rpm, whatever
Why not include in the software the ability to determine gear from the information ? Or easier still for a lot of modern cars, if you could pick up the data from OBD sources.
Would really make for an easy plug n play install
Doesn't matter if its a motec , pectel, marelli , bosch or whatever. Even if you create a math channel in the ecu to determine gear it is still based on a speed input for information in order to do that. If its something that's demanded we will do it.
We have can bus capability and once we have all the protocols we need if the stock OBD source can send info telling what gear its in then its no problem.
#57
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As with any ecu you need to send a voltage per gear for a really easy set up, which we can do. It can accept a analog input .
Doesn't matter if its a motec , pectel, marelli , bosch or whatever. Even if you create a math channel in the ecu to determine gear it is still based on a speed input for information in order to do that. If its something that's demanded we will do it.
We have can bus capability and once we have all the protocols we need if the stock OBD source can send info telling what gear its in then its no problem.
Doesn't matter if its a motec , pectel, marelli , bosch or whatever. Even if you create a math channel in the ecu to determine gear it is still based on a speed input for information in order to do that. If its something that's demanded we will do it.
We have can bus capability and once we have all the protocols we need if the stock OBD source can send info telling what gear its in then its no problem.
You send the ecu vehicle speed, either via the VSS sender or via actual wheel speeds. That's a given anyway.
The ecu already has rpm...and you tell it the gearing for each gear.
Then it calculates gear. It doesnt get much easier and that is how most ecu's will do it. Having to add some sort of setup that outputs a voltage in order to determine gear is probably the most awkward way you could achieve it. Just how would you do that on a 6 sped manual for example ?
The only transmissions that routinely send out a voltage per gear are dedicated sequential gearboxes. Not even sure if automatics do it ?
I'm not trying to knock the product, I just hate the fact these companies selling boost controllers claim things, when the reality of actually making them happen is far from those claims, or at best quite difficult.
#59
I said for a really easy set up. I didn't say for a specific car.
Well Im lucky because we have sequential boxes with gear position sensors that output a voltage per gear on most of the stuff we deal with that would want boost by gear.
I understand how to get gear from engine rpm , transmission gearing, and speed input its pretty basic math. We did not put the math in the ecu because frankly most would want just a speed based control set up rather than gear.
There is nothing difficult with a gear based program. If there is a demand Ill do it .
Well Im lucky because we have sequential boxes with gear position sensors that output a voltage per gear on most of the stuff we deal with that would want boost by gear.
I understand how to get gear from engine rpm , transmission gearing, and speed input its pretty basic math. We did not put the math in the ecu because frankly most would want just a speed based control set up rather than gear.
There is nothing difficult with a gear based program. If there is a demand Ill do it .
Last edited by NLR; 01-18-2014 at 08:17 PM.