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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:34 PM
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Just out of curiosity what kind of numbers are you guys getting out of 347's and boost? Im having one built over at HKE and talk to a few others and was told that aluminum isnt very suitable with high boost so to say. My goals are forged 347 with a decked out s480 race cover, billet wheel, etc. With a 1.10 AR (Opinions needed) hoping to make 8-900 with pump and meth and 1k+ on race gas? Im sure this topic has been beat to death but if you can give some insight i'd appreciate it.

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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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been done, I'm doing close to the same build hoping to see 800+.. i think the alum blocks get counted out too soon. \
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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People have stock bottom end LS1s that have survived a long time with 600-800. Of course others have also blown up, and it's not considered reliable to run stock block past 600, but there are some stock block LS1s holding up great. With that said I don't see why a forged aluminum 347 couldn't handle 800-900 reliably no problem. Im planning to do the same in the future. No love for the aluminum blocks, especially the LS1s.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Touche' to the both of you guys, I love the ls1 but from what ive read the ls1's walls are very thin onced bored to 3.905 roughly 3.910 being max bore. Just want to make sure Im going in the right direction with it. Car will very light so I figured 8-900 will make this thing fly. Any opinions on what A/R to run?
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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I have a stock bottom end as of right now. But if I had the coin to go into it I would and turn her loose. From what I hear they don't start giving you issues to right around 1000rwhp.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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What kind of power are you making on your stock bottem end? can you elaborate on your setup if you dont mind?
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 WS6 6.0
What kind of power are you making on your stock bottem end? can you elaborate on your setup if you dont mind?
Kit isnt even on the car yet. As of right now its just a head and cam car. I'll be able to give you a answer in a few months.
**** by then you'll be able to answer your own questions. I was just speaking from a bunch of people that I know that have done it.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 09:53 PM
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Lol true im building the car for 2k14 then run it until it blows then do an lsx big with a big twin kit. Thanks for the replies also
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:06 PM
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My friends firehawk that I do the tuneups on has a forged 348 ls1, it hasn't been on the Dyno to know what it is putting down, but has been 5.81 at 122.4 with 93 and meth, so is making some power on the stock ls1 block.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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Very nice to hear^ thanks any other info on his setup if you dont mind me asking?
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:47 PM
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That was with a t4 cast wheel 78 Borg turbo on 17psi, dual nozzle alky kit spraying straight m1, powerglide, 3.55 gear. Two weeks ago he had the turbo upgraded to a billet wheel 80, and we tuned it to 19 psi, but waiting for the tracks to reopen to get some results.
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The bottom line is an iron block is better suited for higher hp. At that power level the aluminum block is more prone to distortion to the cylinder walls. Iron is a lot stronger and resistant to that. Best way to do an aluminum block would be to have it sleeved or just go with an iron block.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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I'm running a forged 347 (pistons and rods, stock crank) and putting down 745rwhp/688rwtq with boost leak. Once it's sorted out, it'll be north of 800rwhp. So it can be done, how long will it last, not sure.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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I had an aluminum block L76 in a 5000lb truck walking away from 130mph cobras... Twin mp70s on 16psi, showing around 850 at the wheels. Truck has a single HP88 on it now, going to 20psi in the next week or two. Not concerned about distorting the cylinders at all. Iron is stronger, but for most people aluminum is sufficient.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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Hell yeah thanks for the replies guys nice to see some higher horse power aluminum blocks. II am starting to gather parts for the build I appreciate very much guys

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You should be able to reach your goals no problem. Good luck.
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The way I look at it is the stock crank(what i have) is only good to about 1200hp anyway. If I want more power than 1000whp I'll be ditching the aluminum block for a 6.0 iron and going with an aftermarket crank anyway. If you are planning on using a stock crank, then the aluminum block is about as equally a limitation as the that is.

Currently making 735whp and 920wtq. Going back on the dyno soon with more fueling.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1curt
You should be able to reach your goals no problem. Good luck.
Thank you sir
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by willizm
The way I look at it is the stock crank(what i have) is only good to about 1200hp anyway. If I want more power than 1000whp I'll be ditching the aluminum block for a 6.0 iron and going with an aftermarket crank anyway. If you are planning on using a stock crank, then the aluminum block is about as equally a limitation as the that is.

Currently making 735whp and 920wtq. Going back on the dyno soon with more fueling.
Damn that bad boy is making some tq!
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Friend of mine is using a stock LS2 block. 403 stroker. 11.8:1 CR, F1C, 940rwhp @ 15psi.
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