Curious: Why don't cold sides require v banding (turbo)
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Iim in process of building my turbo setup. Why don't cold sides use v bands like hot sides do? Just curious. Are there limitations there? (For the 1000-1200hp setups)
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That part I know, obviously. Very obviously.
Someone just told me "to get the entire kit v banded" yet pretty much everything I see has couplers on the cold side and inter cooler and all that, except for 2500hp outlaw cars that v band everything.
Someone just told me "to get the entire kit v banded" yet pretty much everything I see has couplers on the cold side and inter cooler and all that, except for 2500hp outlaw cars that v band everything.
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It's just easier to use a coupler. There are Vbands cheapish on EBAY with an Oring in them specifically for cold side piping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-3-V-Band-Clamp-Flange-Kit-Aluminum-Turbo-Intercooler-Pipe-w-O-ring-/290612657549?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a9dd3d8d&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-3-V-Band-Clamp-Flange-Kit-Aluminum-Turbo-Intercooler-Pipe-w-O-ring-/290612657549?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a9dd3d8d&vxp=mtr
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i vbanded my cold side but left 2 couplers so it had some flex. 4" vbands were $60, and a silicone and stainless clamps was like $45. Worth it for the ease of never having to worry about popping one off
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I have one Vband on my cold side at the turbo because it was designed for one. BW S476. When I asked, guys said they just cut it off and used a silicone coupler. I wasn't about to whack the outlet off a $1600 turbo.
The rest of my cold side uses 3 silicone couplers. Of those, the only one that could blow off is the TB coupler. The others physically can't.
All that said, I have not run the car yet, so time will tell.
Ron
The rest of my cold side uses 3 silicone couplers. Of those, the only one that could blow off is the TB coupler. The others physically can't.
All that said, I have not run the car yet, so time will tell.
Ron
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My new Cold side will have 2 V bands and 2 silicon couplers.
That being said my old cold side had about 6 silicone couplers and I didn't have any issues until I was trying to go faster than my 8.62 pass. And I was only loosing couplers on the turbo side of the intercooler(it was a restriction) Probably seeing 30 psi on that side. only 19-20 at the Engine
That being said my old cold side had about 6 silicone couplers and I didn't have any issues until I was trying to go faster than my 8.62 pass. And I was only loosing couplers on the turbo side of the intercooler(it was a restriction) Probably seeing 30 psi on that side. only 19-20 at the Engine
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Dont forget, that unless your engine is bolted solid, and the chassis is solid, creating solid pipework can lead to fractures.
Silicone couplers allow some movement so are better than v-bands in that respect.
I would never ever use a solid pipe system with any type of flexible engine mount.
Wiggins clamps etc would be the thing to use there, although they are very expensive. I think there are similar cheaper options though.
But certainly on 3" pipework Ive used up to 40psi boost with no issues with silicone pipes and good quality hose clamps
A lot of making them work is just common sense. Proper hose prep and clamps, or add a bolted strain relief across silicone couplers.
Obviously the larger diameter the pipe, the more force trying to blow it apart.
Silicone couplers allow some movement so are better than v-bands in that respect.
I would never ever use a solid pipe system with any type of flexible engine mount.
Wiggins clamps etc would be the thing to use there, although they are very expensive. I think there are similar cheaper options though.
But certainly on 3" pipework Ive used up to 40psi boost with no issues with silicone pipes and good quality hose clamps
A lot of making them work is just common sense. Proper hose prep and clamps, or add a bolted strain relief across silicone couplers.
Obviously the larger diameter the pipe, the more force trying to blow it apart.
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I was just going to post was Stevie said, well said!
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