Ummm...you said 470. Appears he said 427 in the response you even quoted. A little difference there.

Anyway, everyone keep on entertaining.

 

My ws6 made 469/410 with MS3/ETP Heads/Fast90/90 combo with a pat G tune.
Thats conservative too. Car would turn 7500 rpm and we cut it off at 6500. ( Needed new springs ) So I could of made even more, probably 475-480

Its not impossible.

 

Walk me through the process of how you arrived at that number. What did you use for your atmospheric pressure, temperature, and humidity during these "uncorrected" pulls... Chief.

You changed a million variables, of course I need more information! I don't know a thing about that 240. The more variables you add, the harder it is to prove or disprove something. The engines you keep comparing yours to aren't "bone stock". Assuming your engine is 100% original we can use GM's rated crank HP to easily prove your full of $hit. It is a known fact that a stock LS1 engine can't more than double its NA HP per atmosphere! Mass in = Mass out. That "one-liner" alone ends this entire discussion. Your VE argument is ridiculous, but I'll get into that below.

If you think a coupler popping off an engine on the dyno constitutes an accurate NA HP run, you're the "Tard". The scenario described by the 240 owner is a nightmare. There is zero CONTROL in that scenario. Where did the coupler let loose? Did the engine have to suck through the intercooler? Could the coupler have blocked flow in anyway? What did the AFR do? Timing ? Again there are no CONSTANTS in any of your tests making them all unreliable and worthless. Unless the 240 owner stripped all his turbo crap off the car and tuned it "NA" to optimal power levels, it's another pointless comparison. What makes it worse is that your trying to use someone else's engine/dyno to prove a point about your engine/dyno? How does that work?

If inertia dynos are such an accurate representation of true engine HP, why will a 4.56 gear VS a 2.73 gear put out 2 completely different power levels on the same engine?


The statement above just proves you don't understand the concept of VE... Go back and read what was written. No one claimed you couldn't have higher than 100% VE. I said you can't have higher than 100%VE per added atmosphere. The more you speak the more ignorant you look. I tried to be nice and explain why you are wrong. I was young and dumb once too! While I'm only marginally better now, I know enough to tell your dyno readings aren't possible.

Step 1. Ignore the power numbers and stop getting butt-hurt.
Step 2. Step back and use common sense.

Let me try to bring it down to the most basic level possible...

What your trying to tell us is you can more than double the mass with each added atmosphere dependent on the size of the turbo. IE Displace more than 2 liters of mass, per revolution at 2 atmosphere...Which is impossible! Savvy?

 

Ok, got it. I'm done here!



Glad you guys enjoyed!

 

Now you know.

 

Are you running the stock returnless fuel rail? How is your system hooked up to the adj fpr? Can you share pics?

Thanks

 

In for track results. What kind of turbos op?

 

Yes. but I am 100% out of fuel. Many told me the stock rails wont work past 600hp-well, they do! When I upgrade, I will have dual 044's feeding dual lines separately but I am a big "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of guy.

There should be some pics in the thread, but its just a China regulator I have has good luck with in the past in the feel line before the rail-with the return going to the tank. If not, I can post more specific pics.

I will say I am 100% out of fuel at 21+psi. Really, I am at the limit of my entire fuel system, but I designed it that way intentionally. the fuel system compliments itself nicely IMO for the budget-I figured it would all be good for 850whp give or take, and I was right. I would say my main bottle neck is the used twin in tank 255's, but with stock fuel lines (3/8) the regulator which is pre-rail, 80 lbs', and the stock rail-Its all limiting for reliable 1000+whp use.

 

Me 2! Wife is at 39 weeks so I am on lock down.

Twin On3 Billet 67's. I freakin love them!!

 

thanks for the answer, yes im in for more pics , thanks and nice build btw

 

Thanks. I will get some more pics of that for you. Its nothing special I assure you!

 

very nice build

 

thanks boiric

Here ya go. Keep it simple




And for the people that said its impossible on a stock fuel rail....




The 2 sections of straight tube in the feel is for testing. One I slip out to change gas, and the other replace my $5 Autozone fuel filter that had come apart internally. We were very lean early-at 14-15psi. Figured it had to be the filer or the fuel socks because the pumps sounded great-and the tune was dead on. When I took off the filter, it sounded like it had loose change in it-never seen that happen before!

 

Its official. Juan is here!





I've been calling the car Juan since I picked it up. The state would not give me LSJUAN, so this had to do. I dig it!

 

When is Juan going to visit the race track so we can put an end to this debate?

 

Later in the year. My latest edition to the stable is taking up all of my time. New as of 5/16



This is #2, and we don't have any family help for Child care, so I took some time off to help Mom get acclimated to dealing with my savage of a 2 year old Son, and now her little girl. Literally every weekend we have a Wedding, Birthday, or Graduation party until August and I already have 3 weeks of PTO for Vacations we are taking this winter and one from earlier int he year, so I wont be calling off work during the week to get tot he track.

I plan on catching a rental or at worst a test and tune once "party season" is over.

 

Congrats, I was in the same spot twenty years ago. Enjoy the kids they will be grown up and gone before you know it. Cars will be around forever.

 

Yep...What he said.

Hard for me to believe my youngest of six is over twenty.

Seems like yesterday that I was bringing them home all bundled up like your little one.

The buggers grow up WAY to fast.


So...What's the "specs" on the latest one...?

 

Thanks! The change in my "life" mindset in the last week has been interesting. With my son (now 19 months) not much changed. Still had time to party, still wanted to race all the time. I did sell my Busa, but no one needs to be going 200+ on the street, on week days Now with my daughter-I am seeing them grow up in my mind and everything I think about is to create the best environment for that to happen.

Basically, I used to get upset missing car events I looked forward to- the DSMshootout for example. Now, I recently missed an annual car show/dyno day I helped start 6 years ago, and I could care less. Getting old I suppose!


I agree-some pics of my son he looks like an 8 year old, makes me do a double take.

Melina Ann was 7lbs 10 oz 20 inches long. Healthy as can be.

 

Thanks for the pics and congrats for your lovely
daughter