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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 09:52 AM
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I'm looking for OEM level of dependability. I also like the integrated WG and built in recirculating valve.

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I checked out the efr turbos at Sema. Very nice units. If were to start all over with my build I would run them over the s366's.

I don't think the price is bad either. You don't have to buy bov's or wg's and they are very high end turbos.

If you have good fuel like e85, run compression around 10:1. A good cam and converter for your combo will also be key.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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here you go. this was with a billet 80 on a 5.3 14 psi, 91 octane babysoft timing. no cam no springs just a bone stock 5.3. if you stepped down to a cast 76mm and put a cam and springs in it, it would spool quicker.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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There's no rpm trace above to give any clue as to how fast they spool, looking at the shape of the torque curve...it looks quite late.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LILHEMI
here you go. this was with a billet 80 on a 5.3 14 psi, 91 octane babysoft timing. no cam no springs just a bone stock 5.3. if you stepped down to a cast 76mm and put a cam and springs in it, it would spool quicker.
Damn that looks like some pretty crazy valve float, it breaks up horribly after peak torque. Still good numbers for a stock motor on only 14 pounds tho
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NoorJ
Damn that looks like some pretty crazy valve float, it breaks up horribly after peak torque. Still good numbers for a stock motor on only 14 pounds tho
oh yeah it floated them pretty badly. put a set of springs in it and it cured all that. that was a long time ago at this point lol
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LILHEMI
here you go. this was with a billet 80 on a 5.3 14 psi, 91 octane babysoft timing. no cam no springs just a bone stock 5.3. if you stepped down to a cast 76mm and put a cam and springs in it, it would spool quicker.
Looks like late spool to me. Not what the OP is looking for.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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The EFR price tag is epic. The cheapest turbo good for 440hp was $1633. Out of my league.

I will take your S366's when you are ready to upgrade norotor...lol
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Looks like late spool to me. Not what the OP is looking for.
"if you stepped down to a cast 76mm and put a cam and springs in it, it would spool quicker."
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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It'd need to spool a hell of a lot quicker.

But a pair of EFR's does seem a bit OTT. If they're within the budget though, go for it.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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The EFR's have internal wastegates and BOV's right? Have to consider that in the price.

But I think Andrew in on the right track with the low rpm power. It makes for a funner street car for sure.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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Lots of smaller turbos will work fine for you. Seems like everyone needs a 6266 anymore on the internet. Go billet if you want the best power in the smaller wheels. No reason you couldn't run PTE or Turbonetics in smaller sizes and get good response, but most people go to big. The new fad in a few years will be downsizing turbos like everyone is doing with cams haha.
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Those EFR's look pretty interesting. The price isn't too bad when you consider what you are getting. From what I have read about them, they seem to be very responsive down low.
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Originally Posted by slowride
. The new fad in a few years will be downsizing turbos like everyone is doing with cams haha.
LOL I'm already thinking about it now!!!
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 08:00 AM
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Depends entirely what you want and how you'll drive.

The EFR is only really an advantage to give you a wider spread of power as they claim to offer excellent spool, and excellent performance at the upper end too.

But you just need to look at the OEM...if you need fast spool for a high torque setup...you just need a suitably sized small turbo, cast wheel.

So it can be done cheaply, but as most people here would be aiming for power vs low rpm torque, it's natural to select a larger turbo
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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What do you guys think about the short block requirements for such a build? I am pretty sure that due to the high cylinder pressures at low RPM an all forged rotating assembly would be a must.

For heads I would think the TrickFlow GenX 205s are the way to go. Does anyone else make a head that works with the stock 5.3L bore?

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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
What do you guys think about the short block requirements for such a build? I am pretty sure that due to the high cylinder pressures at low RPM an all forged rotating assembly would be a must.

For heads I would think the TrickFlow GenX 205s are the way to go. Does anyone else make a head that works with the stock 5.3L bore?

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im pretty sure that chevy makes quite a few heads that will fit the 5.3 and make a ton of power. 862s, 243s etc.
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Forging isn't essential, but that obviously depends on the sort of numbers you are talking about. 500lbft,, 700, 900 etc ?
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Originally Posted by LILHEMI
im pretty sure that chevy makes quite a few heads that will fit the 5.3 and make a ton of power. 862s, 243s etc.
I am sure that stock heads work fine, but with better flowing heads you can make more power at the same or even lower boost levels.

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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
I am sure that stock heads work fine, but with better flowing heads you can make more power at the same or even lower boost levels.

Andrew
stock heads are free.
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Sounds like your over thinking it. This isn’t the NA world and none of those “fancy” parts are needed for your goal. The engine becomes the cheap part when you are only targeting 550-600whp. Get yourself a gen4 5.3. Run head studs and decent head gaskets. Leave the long block alone. 67-70mm single and a mild cam…done. Look at the mileage stock48 is getting out of his unmodified short block builds. Making more power than your goal at heavier weights.

If you’re going to spend the extra cash on a forged rotating assy and heads, you’d be money ahead buying a gen4 6.0. With a small cam it would meet your power goals with little boost. The added cubes will help with your “insta-spool” goals.
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