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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by T.Fiddler
I am sure if I left at a higher rpm on the 2 step this graph would look a bit different. But like I say I am still learning the combo. My converter is VERY loose now so that will be adjusted this winter.

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Looks like a pretty big drop on the shift? Is that like 1000+ rpm? Seems odd for a loose converter to drop that much?

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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 11:43 PM
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I may have to look into this instead of a single on my stock LS1 third gen Camaro. Does anyone know what size turbos would be ideal for the same result on a 5.7?
I'd recommend On3 Billet 67s/ Fast spool and room for 1000++whp

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...7-turbo-s.html

Here is an example of how responsive they were on my bone stock LS1

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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Looks like a pretty huge drop on the shift? Is that like 1000+ rpm? Seems odd for a loose converter to drop that much?
I wonder what the calculated shift recovery is supposed to be...
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 12:14 PM
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Don't think there is a right or wrong, but my "loose" converter basically didn't drop more than 100 rpm or so. The shift on the data log looked like a table top. That's why his picture just struck me as odd when mentioning a loose converter. I think 900-1000ish rpm is about right on a shift personally... unless it's slipping a ton up top.

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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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I'm sure your right it can certainly vary as far as ideal goes.

I would say a good starting point is he should try to be within a few hundred RPM of the calculated shift recovery RPM.

Looking at his log I would say it is too lose because he is not hitting 4psi til 5,500 on the brake. With that motor @ WOT & those small turbos he should be at his 8psi hat mark by no later than 4,500RPM.

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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Looks like a pretty big drop on the shift? Is that like 1000+ rpm? Seems odd for a loose converter to drop that much?
The problem is too much converter slip. I am at 6500 at the 1/8 the mile.
I probably have 200 passes on this converter so I know how it usually works.
I was surprised at how it is responding to this engine. PTC will get me fixed up.

I did get a few test passes at Capitol this week end. Runs were very traction limited but I went there to test my new G Sensor and got the data I needed.
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gtfoxy
I'm sure your right it can certainly vary as far as ideal goes.

I would say a good starting point is he should try to be within a few hundred RPM of the calculated shift recovery RPM.

Looking at his log I would say it is too lose because he is not hitting 4psi til 5,500 on the brake. With that motor @ WOT & those small turbos he should be at his 8psi hat mark by no later than 4,500RPM.
I was only at 3000 rpm on the brake. On previous setups the engine would run to a flash of 4200 just off the brake. Then accelerate when the drive shaft "caught up".
Now it just blows right through that section. You are correct.
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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I meant to say "off the brake", I believe. Sry

Just so I am understanding the log right, it took about 2 seconds after getting on the brake to go from 0 to 4psi. Then just over another 2 seconds go by while you finally hit 8psi when you shift at 6,500. On shift recovery you have a slight bobble in pressure then it settles back down for the rest of the run.

Bottom end torque of a turbo motor will humble a converter made for NA applications.
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Old Dec 29, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gtfoxy
I meant to say "off the brake", I believe. Sry

Just so I am understanding the log right, it took about 2 seconds after getting on the brake to go from 0 to 4psi. Then just over another 2 seconds go by while you finally hit 8psi when you shift at 6,500. On shift recovery you have a slight bobble in pressure then it settles back down for the rest of the run.

Bottom end torque of a turbo motor will humble a converter made for NA applications.
Yes you reading it correctly. I tried leaving at 3500 on the 2 step but knocked the tires off. I believe there was something on the starting line on that pass as they did a track prep after the car behind me spun also.

Still learning this combo...but I Like it!
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It's going to really be a handful after you get it figured out, Ha. Right now it's a turd compared to what it could be, if you know what I mean.
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gtfoxy
It's going to really be a handful after you get it figured out, Ha. Right now it's a turd compared to what it could be, if you know what I mean.
Oh I know.
Great times we live in.
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Old Dec 30, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by coltboostin
I'd recommend On3 Billet 67s/ Fast spool and room for 1000++whp

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...7-turbo-s.html

Here is an example of how responsive they were on my bone stock LS1

LSJUAN Twin Turbo Ls1 free 2 stage boost controler testing - YouTube

Nice work
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Old May 11, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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updates?
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What he said ^^^
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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Nice meeting you today! Hope the leak was something simple. Your car was running very well! It will really rock when you get the gear and converter sorted out! As if it doesn't rock already, lol. Those china turbos work well.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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Good meeting you Bad Apache. Split a trans cooler line. Got it fixed and made my last license pass Sunday. Out of RPM at the 1/8th but a new best in the 1/8. Steel doors and other changes have it at 2600 lbs now
VERY Happy

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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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I hope you slept some. Glad it was only a hose. Was this pass still on 13 psi? Wow that car is working! I'd smile as much as you as well, hahaha!

Really liked your electric water pump drive and shock sensors. Some quality products you produce.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad Apache
I hope you slept some. Glad it was only a hose. Was this pass still on 13 psi? Wow that car is working! I'd smile as much as you as well, hahaha!

Really liked your electric water pump drive and shock sensors. Some quality products you produce.

Creeped to 15lbs. The shock sensors have been great. I am going to make an automatic tensioner for the WP drive.
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Very cool! What kind of RPM thru the 1/8th?
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Very cool! What kind of RPM thru the 1/8th?
6800 on the limiter. Had my 8" converter tightened as much as they could and still way too loose. Need to get a 9.5" or 10" to hold it.
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