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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Hi guy, I`m looking into buying a procharger system but was wondering is this is possible with my setup.
My car is a 2000 m6 ss
Hooker long tubes , ported throttle body, ls6 intake, lid, si5 cam, pac racing springs. I`m a little worried about the cam .
I`m not looking for big power 450-500hp, not looking to forge the internals.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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What's the specs on that cam?
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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450-500 to the wheels, or flywheel? Flywheel can be done with your current setup fairly easily.

A procharger setup is pretty damn expensive to only gain 100 HP. I spent a quarter of that to gain 500 HP.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:40 PM
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The cam spec are 231/237,
I`m looking for 450 - 500 whp
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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That cam will be fine with a Procharger. I agree with JoeNova. That's a **** ton of money to throw at your car if you only desire to make between 450 to 500 rwhp. With a good tune, you'll be safe to make around 600 to 650+rwhp.
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That cam will be fine with the low boost you're looking at
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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A P1SC kit at 8 pounds will work great and the cam is fine. This will still run on pump gas but I'd suggest a custom tune when you are set to go.

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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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I know but I don`t to forge the bottom end, how much can the bottom end take before things start to go bad ?
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I know but I don`t to forge the bottom end, how much can the bottom end take before things start to go bad ?
That's a very loaded question. A very poor tune, and things will head south in a hurry, and at low power levels. If the engine is built right and the tune is spot on, you could safely run in the 650+ power levels.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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650rwhp on a stock bottom end ? That seems like allot.
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Originally Posted by juxi
650rwhp on a stock bottom end ? That seems like allot.
Have you not checked out the FI section???
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by juxi
650rwhp on a stock bottom end ? That seems like allot.
This isn't the 70's. There are guys making almost twice that on a stock bottom end.

The record for a stock bottom end LS1 is somewhere in the 800s. The truck motors are making a lot more power. The gen 3 rods are weaker, so I wouldn't go above 650whp or a bad tune will cause you to have bad rods, but at ~8 PSI on your current setup you'll make ~550 to the wheels on pump gas and it still be very very reliable with a good tune.
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Originally Posted by juxi
650rwhp on a stock bottom end ? That seems like allot.
It is.

Alot of people here think E85 fuel is sold at every gas station in every state and think nothing to say "Stock bottom end and 700rwhp" in the same sentence.

If you got E85 fuel in your area, yes you can make crazy power on a stock bottom end.

If your like me and got 2 gas stations that sell it and both are 45 minutes away. Not worth it. Go with a forged bottom, 93 + meth, make big power and and have peace in mind.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 04:20 PM
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Were I live we don`t have e85, but my car is only used once or twice a month for a little racing, nothing big. but I run 114octane vp racing fuel so that will be no problem
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Why are you worried about the cam?

You could easily make 450-500 with just the procharger and stock cam running 8 psi and 93 octane.

That cam + the procharger running 8psi, you make 540 (or in that ballpark)
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Originally Posted by 30th t/a
It is.

Alot of people here think E85 fuel is sold at every gas station in every state and think nothing to say "Stock bottom end and 700rwhp" in the same sentence.

If you got E85 fuel in your area, yes you can make crazy power on a stock bottom end.

If your like me and got 2 gas stations that sell it and both are 45 minutes away. Not worth it. Go with a forged bottom, 93 + meth, make big power and and have peace in mind.
I just made over 700 to the wheels on an untouched 5.3 bottom end on 19 PSI and pump gas. E85 isn't some magic fuel, it just makes your margin for error in your tune a lot wider. If your tune is good, you can still make big numbers on pump gas, especially with water/meth injection and a good intercooler. This was even my first attempt at a turbo LS, and my first time doing a full tune in HPT.

Most people believe the power is in the octane, others know its in the tune.
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I've been throwing around the idea of going the turbo route in my 45,000 mile LS1/WS6. I've been back and forth on pulling the LS1 in lue of a junk yard 4.8 or 5.3, but since I already have a good, low mile and solid LS1, I might as well just use it. I'm sure the 4.8 or 5.3 can safely handle more boost/power than the LS1, but how much more, that's the question. I'm not looking to break any records or anything, but would love to have 700+ HP.
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I would say go for it! I just recently got done with a procharger on a very similar setup. Same year. I put down 600 hp on the dyno. With only 8-9 psi. No meth or forged internals. Just get the tune correct. I used the d1sc rather than the p1sc an upgraded to a fmic.
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Originally Posted by juxi
I know but I don`t to forge the bottom end, how much can the bottom end take before things start to go bad ?

Your stock bottom end will handle the P1SC at 8 pounds of boost all day long, and with proper tuning can be ran on pump gas with no issue. The LS engines are very stout, there are a lot of people running insane times with stock blocks, rods, and pistons. Nick Mobus has been a string of 8.0s @ 170+ with a stock bottom end 6.0 running 20 psi.

Give us a call... we would be glad to help out.
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630 rwhp on my stock bottom end ls1, 9lbs for 7 years now..
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