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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 01:32 PM
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Not hot, only 2 threads of heat showing.
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 01:58 PM
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Only two threads lol


Look at the speckling on the porcelin in the second pic
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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im about to load 2 picks of the next plug back i just pulled. It has no speckling. I did miss a gear twice last night if that means anything?
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 02:14 PM
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Once again same plug. This is cylinder 5, previous was 3.

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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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7 is the one I would be looking too

21* at 21lbs sounds interesting
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 03:20 PM
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you on E85 or race gas?
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mekkadon
you on e85 or race gas?
e85....
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
7 is the one I would be looking too

21* at 21lbs sounds interesting
I don't tune so couldn't say, He said the tune was safe.
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im makin 900+ whp single turbo and even on lower boost pulls 650whp or so i was spraying coolant, only passenger side and it looked to be more soaked around cap, i changed the cap and now its mint, fixed... where is fluid under your hood?
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Originally Posted by Kmspeedie
im makin 900+ whp single turbo and even on lower boost pulls 650whp or so i was spraying coolant, only passenger side and it looked to be more soaked around cap, i changed the cap and now its mint, fixed... where is fluid under your hood?
Same place is yours. on passenger side wheel well, around cap, left side of hood ect
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So, put a higher pressure cap on, add a bigger overflow and test it.

When I pushed water earlier this year, I reduced the boost, and dropped timing from 17 to 15 and made another pass.

It filled my overflow full.

So once the gasket begins to fail, they just don't fix themselves.

If it's not the gasket, you are golden.

FWIW, at 16 psi I was at 16 deg timing. Moving it to 17 after a baseline pass netted less than a half mph increase. I didn't see the point in going further.
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Once they leak they are compromised. If you mess around and keep going there is a good chance it will let go and torch the head deck
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
So, put a higher pressure cap on, add a bigger overflow and test it.

When I pushed water earlier this year, I reduced the boost, and dropped timing from 17 to 15 and made another pass.

It filled my overflow full.

So once the gasket begins to fail, they just don't fix themselves.

If it's not the gasket, you are golden.

FWIW, at 16 psi I was at 16 deg timing. Moving it to 17 after a baseline pass netted less than a half mph increase. I didn't see the point in going further.
Thanks for the info. im ordering a cap now and also having my buddy build me a bigger overflow. I just noticed this problem the last 2 times i took the car out. Both time I noticed the coolant spray after making pull after pull. Under normal driving with the occasional pull I haven't witnessed the problem. Who knows. What PSI cap did you get?
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I used an 18psi. But if it's pushing combustion past the gasket, cap pressure won't matter.
More than a few have blown up radiators trying to keep that pressure in.
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Didn't realize you were running Eth. E85 doesn't carbon the ground strap like gasoline does but I would say those pictured have a good bit of white past the bend. Definitely warm.

You have to watch e85 in the cold temps especially if it was tuned at a warmer temp. I know sounds crazy but the latent heat value really cools the charge a bit, so combined it can push the chamber pressures a tad higher. Also, it vaporizes like crap when it's cold. Then when it gets really cold the Eth will break from the low octane fuel. That's bad, hmmmm Kay.

IAT timing needs to be reduced a few degrees vs 50+.

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Originally Posted by gtfoxy
Didn't realize you were running Eth. E85 doesn't carbon the ground strap like gasoline does but I would say those pictured have a good bit of white past the bend. Definitely warm.

You have to watch e85 in the cold temps especially if it was tuned at a warmer temp. I know sounds crazy but the latent heat value really cools the charge a bit, so combined it can push the chamber pressures a tad higher. Also, it vaporizes like crap when it's cold. Then when it gets really cold the Eth will break from the low octane fuel. That's bad, hmmmm Kay.

IAT timing needs to be reduced a few degrees vs 50+.
Yes it was tuned in warmer temps. Maybe 75 degree weather. So take a couple degrees out from 50kpa until it gets back warmer outside?
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gtfoxy
Didn't realize you were running Eth. E85 doesn't carbon the ground strap like gasoline does but I would say those pictured have a good bit of white past the bend. Definitely warm.

You have to watch e85 in the cold temps especially if it was tuned at a warmer temp. I know sounds crazy but the latent heat value really cools the charge a bit, so combined it can push the chamber pressures a tad higher. Also, it vaporizes like crap when it's cold. Then when it gets really cold the Eth will break from the low octane fuel. That's bad, hmmmm Kay.

IAT timing needs to be reduced a few degrees vs 50+.
I do keep the e85, as well as the car in a somewhat heated garage (never gets below like 50ish) FWIW
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by speedfreak2685
e85....
Not sure where you live but if you live in colder climate, being that it is winter, stations might swap out to winter blends this time of year. Unless of course you buy your E85 by the barrel.
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mekkadon
Not sure where you live but if you live in colder climate, being that it is winter, stations might swap out to winter blends this time of year. Unless of course you buy your E85 by the barrel.
I buy it 75 gallons at a time and I get it from the pump. I test it every time I get it to make sure its consistent. This isnt the issue here.
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Old Dec 5, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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You lifted a head. Replace the head gaskets and see which cylinder it is. I would back the timing or boost off a little. Or both. You will end up pushing a hose off.
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