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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Finally built the 261ci lsx bolted the v1t too it,
We spin the engine at 6000rpm with an 80t crank pulley and 30 t blower pulley. With the step up its spinning the blower at 55200, boost is 14/15psi we're about 750hp.

My question how ever is do I need the ysi? We are maxed out on the v1t and I want more boost /power

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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 04:54 PM
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A 261ci LSX ?

WTF ? And only 6000rpm ?? WTF2 ?
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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Yep 2.7 crank built for a race class, 6000 to survive at wot for long periods
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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I'd have thought the downstroking would be a good opportunity to spin it higher ?

And how can anyone suggest what blower...when you dont say what power you have, what power you want, or what you're doing with it ?
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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As above 750 I'm asking if I need the next size up, we seem maxed out with the v1, could I spin it higher? or best just to go with the ysi? It's producing a lot of heat too would the bigger blower. Running cooler intake temps?

Not much more another 40-50 hp
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 03:27 AM
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I wouldnt see any point in opting for another small blower.

At least choosing bigger gives you room to grow should you need it. It's hard to go wrong with a YSi
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:52 AM
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What type of racing and what class?
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tknz
Yep 2.7 crank built for a race class, 6000 to survive at wot for long periods
69mm crank at 6000 RPM is a piston speed of 2716 FPM or ~45 FPS.

By comparison, a stock LS1 stroke of 92mm and limiter of 6200 RPM is 3742 FPM or ~62 FPS. You would have to rev your engine to 8300 RPM to see similar piston speeds as a stock LS1. You would have to rev to 10,300 RPM to see similar piston speeds as an LS7 with a stock rev limiter.

Being as how you likely have a FAR superior rod/stroke ratio and I'm guessing a custom forged crank/rod set, you should be able to shrug off 10,000 RPM assuming you can solve the valvetrain/oiling issues.

Moral of the story: You're holding yourself back.
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 12:50 PM
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I'd love to see the valvetrain and oil pump/system to accommodate sustained 10,000rpm vs 6,000rpm.

If 6,000rpm is where he needs to be, he isnt holding anything back.
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I wouldnt see any point in opting for another small blower.

At least choosing bigger gives you room to grow should you need it. It's hard to go wrong with a YSi
I just wonder if going up to th v4x the little engine might struggle t spin it,

if if I put the ysi in with the same pulleys, it should blow more air correct? So boost higher power. Bit more?
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
69mm crank at 6000 RPM is a piston speed of 2716 FPM or ~45 FPS.

By comparison, a stock LS1 stroke of 92mm and limiter of 6200 RPM is 3742 FPM or ~62 FPS. You would have to rev your engine to 8300 RPM to see similar piston speeds as a stock LS1. You would have to rev to 10,300 RPM to see similar piston speeds as an LS7 with a stock rev limiter.

Being as how you likely have a FAR superior rod/stroke ratio and I'm guessing a custom forged crank/rod set, you should be able to shrug off 10,000 RPM assuming you can solve the valvetrain/oiling issues.

Moral of the story: You're holding yourself back.
hoping for reliability it's a marathon jetboat so need it to last st wit for an 1hr at a time, we will aim at 6300 but the v1 is maxed out now and I think a v4x might soak up power, but I'm really not sure?

cheers
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by a05c
What type of racing and what class?
Jetboat 470ci or f/I at 1.8x
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Old Oct 5, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tknz
I just wonder if going up to th v4x the little engine might struggle t spin it,

if if I put the ysi in with the same pulleys, it should blow more air correct? So boost higher power. Bit more?
The two do use basically the same gearcase, so any losses from that should be the same.

You'd really need to consult with Vortech as to which unit would be the most efficient in terms of moving air at the rpm/boost you would end up using.

As you're sitting at a steady engine rpm most of the time, that should make it much easier to decide between them as to which compressor is easiest driven and most efficient.
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