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Hey all- I know very little about turbochargers but if I lock the wastegate open will my engine run like it's naturally aspirated with more backpressure?

The reason I ask is that I am putting a 6.0 LQ4in an AMC Gremlin. I have l92 heads and ls3
Intake and am planning a cam with more duration and lift than the hot cam so it should b 500+ hp.

I don't really want to waste the time and money running y pipe and exhaust tailpipes to the back when it will be ultimately a turbo setup with my gt45.

If I run the manifolds forward can I use the turbo as a big muffler to start out with and get it running by locking my wastegate. I am not kind of afraid what it will be like with boost and ls3 6.0 in such a light chassis and figuring out
the tune and water injection could take a while. I am not even sure how I am
Going to get the motor in yet (adapter plates/oil pan) and then figure out turbo drain and feed.
a while.
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Originally Posted by hpfiend
Hey all- I know very little about turbochargers but if I lock the wastegate open will my engine run like it's naturally aspirated with more backpressure? The reason I ask is that I am putting a 6.0 LQ4in an AMC Gremlin. I have l92 heads and ls3 Intake and am planning a cam with more duration and lift than the hot cam so it should b 500+ hp. I don't really want to waste the time and money running y pipe and exhaust tailpipes to the back when it will be ultimately a turbo setup with my gt45. If I run the manifolds forward can I use the turbo as a big muffler to start out with and get it running by locking my wastegate. I am not kind of afraid what it will be like with boost and ls3 6.0 in such a light chassis and figuring out the tune and water injection could take a while. I am not even sure how I am Going to get the motor in yet (adapter plates/oil pan) and then figure out turbo drain and feed. a while.
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If you are dead-set on such a weird build approach, weld up a section of pipe between your turbine inlet and downpipe outlet locations as mocked up by the actual turbo. This will save all the potential damage you could do to an expensive turbo while you are not actually using it, yet allows you to fab up the entirety of the hotside while remaining N/A.
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GT45 on a big cam 6.0 with LS3 top end?
That's going to be underwhelming.
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GT45 on a big cam 6.0 with LS3 top end? That's going to be underwhelming.
What do you mean by this? Not a big cam- a custom isky turbo cam by stock 48
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Thanks for the idea gametech- I am prob going to try and do it all at once but wanted to know my options as it is kind of overwhelming right now.
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I'm so confused, it's like you want to try to build a turbo setup, by not building a turbo setup.
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It will still make some boost depending on wastegate size and placement.

If your goal is no boost, just attach your turbine sans the chra, block off the chra side and route with a normal downpipe
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Just leave the WG off...
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Originally Posted by hpfiend
What do you mean by this? Not a big cam- a custom isky turbo cam by stock 48
I mean the GT45 isn't exactly known for how well it performs on a 6.0.
It does a much better job on the 4.8 and 5.3.

Once you add cam and heads to that 6.0, its going to perform even worse.
You need more turbo.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Just leave the WG off...
And this is the best suggestion I've seen so far.
Just fab a dump tube that bolts to where your wastegate should be.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
And this is the best suggestion I've seen so far.
Just fab a dump tube that bolts to where your wastegate should be.
Agreed, or just leave the spring out.
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My gt45 is 80mm with 1.15a/r. I have 6.0 LQ4 and at around 16# it'll make 800 or so hp
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Originally Posted by kwrench61
My gt45 is 80mm with 1.15a/r. I have 6.0 LQ4 and at around 16# it'll make 800 or so hp
What cam and heads and intake do you have?
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LS9 cam,317 heads with proper valve job and dual springs,LS2 intake with Warr Performance 92mm throttle body. Oh and also H-beam rods and JE forged pistons



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