Twin turbo foxbody
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Twin turbo foxbody
I've got a foxbody I'm building and put a 6.0 lq4.It has 317 ported heads with a btr cam adv dur 278 int 287 exh DUR@. 050 226 int 234 exh lobe sep 116.0 vavle lift .605 576,edelbrock pro x intake. I took it apart put new bearings, rings gapped for boost,good head gaskets and studs. It has a power glide with Trans brake and 1.82 first gear and 3.42 rear.Would like around 700 to 800 if possible.It will see alot more street time then strip.It has precision 6262 turbos with huron speed turbo kit.I was looking for suggestions on fuel system , ecu and other esc.On fuel system I would like to keep stock look but can go fuel cell if needed.And ecu I've been looking and holley hp or dominator.Ive got a factory harness and ecu cut but I think I would be better off with aftermarket for boost controler, two step and meth spray,I don't have e 85 where I'm at so it will be mostly 93 and meth,Then race fuel when racing.Any help on what inj,throttle body,and esc would be appreciated this is my first turbo build.
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I have a aftermarket pick up in it now were I had a nitrous sbc in it.I just had a problem with it loosing psi after about 20 min but I didn't have a return on it.And didn't know if it would work with efi
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If your return doesn't exit below the fluid level, it will cavitate the pump. Another issue is the "basket" that the pickup sits in. Under hard acceleration, the fuel will go over the top and uncover the pickup. You could do an 03 cobra tank with two 450 lph pumps. There's also the surge tank option. I didn't have much success with it, but setup properly it should work fine.
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I'll look into a cobra gas tank.The pick up I got in it now has 2 an lines on the top.one for return other for feed,I had return blocked of with sbc that could have been the problem. I've been looking at the holley systems just trying to fig what all I need.And if hp will work or get dominator.
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Doesn’t really matter where you tap the oil feed, either location works fine.
Looking at money spent VS options I’d be looking at the HP or MS3. Dominator is ridiculously priced IMO. If you plan on running high impedance injectors anyway (like the suggested Deka 80’s) the MS3 or MS3X has more functions. On the other hand, the Holley HP can run low impedance injectors which opens up cheaper injector options when you want to go over the 80lb range. If you don’t need that… the MS3 makes more sense to me.
Surge tank idea would be the best bet IMO. You don’t need a sump and you can use your factory tank while retaining your fuel level senders and factory intank pump. Here’s my setup. Bought a new tank with OEM fuel pump and senders all installed cheap on EBay. That feeds your sump tank. From the sump tank I run the AEM380 to the fuel rails.
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Looking at money spent VS options I’d be looking at the HP or MS3. Dominator is ridiculously priced IMO. If you plan on running high impedance injectors anyway (like the suggested Deka 80’s) the MS3 or MS3X has more functions. On the other hand, the Holley HP can run low impedance injectors which opens up cheaper injector options when you want to go over the 80lb range. If you don’t need that… the MS3 makes more sense to me.
Surge tank idea would be the best bet IMO. You don’t need a sump and you can use your factory tank while retaining your fuel level senders and factory intank pump. Here’s my setup. Bought a new tank with OEM fuel pump and senders all installed cheap on EBay. That feeds your sump tank. From the sump tank I run the AEM380 to the fuel rails.
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I like the surge tank ideal.What all would I need to run the ms3 or holley?I know I need 2 step,meth,and boost controler.I think the holley has all built in just not sure what I would need to go with it.
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You would need a solenoid (Mac valve or equivalent) for the boost control. MS3 could control the meth pump directly through a solid state relay.
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Trying to get my fuel system figured out would my pick up I have in it now work with a external pump since they are not designed to pull? (First pic)Or would it be better to by something like the pick up in sec pic and a 340 aeromotive pump?And how far would the 340 take me.I can do a surge tank like suggested but looking for other options.Also what boost ref reg are most useing.I got a set of 80 lb Bosch inj that should work for now.Also I called ptc for a converter and they said I would need a 9.5 and would be about a month is that what most are running with good results
Last edited by boostedstang; 05-07-2017 at 08:55 PM.
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little more progress
I'm making a little progress been real busy with work and kids.I still need to figure out how to run my switcher valves for the hp boost controler and best way to run my vac lines,and if I need catch cans or just breathers on vavle covers.Ive got everything to get it going I think just need time and help with the boost controler lines
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holley hp boost controler
I'm trying to get my holley hp all installed and wondering how most of you guys are wiring up your boost controler, and Trans brake.Ive read all the instructions and looks like I need relay on Trans brake, and fans,but not the boost solenoids. If anyone had a diagram of how they done their relays,and inputs ,outputs they hook to it may help me out.I would also like to add meth spray and holley dash later on but trying to see if I'm going to run out of inputs and outputs.Not sure if I'm going to use c02 or not yet .Also has anyone used a tablet in car for tuning or should I just use the laptop and buy the holley dash when I get the extra money. If I got the dash it may free up some inputs,outputs or am I wrong?
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I'm trying to get my holley hp all installed and wondering how most of you guys are wiring up your boost controler, and Trans brake.Ive read all the instructions and looks like I need relay on Trans brake, and fans,but not the boost solenoids. If anyone had a diagram of how they done their relays,and inputs ,outputs they hook to it may help me out.I would also like to add meth spray and holley dash later on but trying to see if I'm going to run out of inputs and outputs.Not sure if I'm going to use c02 or not yet .Also has anyone used a tablet in car for tuning or should I just use the laptop and buy the holley dash when I get the extra money. If I got the dash it may free up some inputs,outputs or am I wrong?