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You must really think snail and zoolanders cars are turds then.
I'm sure your vw does. It probably has a rainbow sticker on the back to like most of them.
Well i guess like one of you told be earlier. Till you have you haven't.
Could care less what they run, they aren't spewing **** out of their mouths.
Damn right, you saw the sticker because I was in front of you! Sucks being slower then a gay VW doesn't it. And yet somehow even it doesnt blow up on 30lbs of boost but you manage to break NA LS's lolzzzz
This is Hiollary's best slip for around 20 years of mods and 4 motors.... notice the 60ft on her self proclaimed road race setup. No timing error here considering the average 60ft she did that day was 1.7x. Sheeeet.
No turbos cars don't either. There is always that one thing . Aftermarket turbos are never gonna have the reliability as stock stuff either. When you say like stock it has to meet EVERY criteria. Not stock except for this or that....but stock. They're harder to work on also. Handling balance changes. Now some of this may be a acceptable tolerance......but that don't make it stock.
550whp NA 346 that has any stock streetable manners , that’s funny. I would definitely like to see that dyno shootout. Wonder why all those street outlaws are converting to turbos? They must not know how reliable a high hp per ci normally aspirated engine is? You take me as the kind of guy who would drive up to a cop to report a wrongdoing, while drinking a beer.
No turbos cars don't either. There is always that one thing . Aftermarket turbos are never gonna have the reliability as stock stuff either. When you say like stock it has to meet EVERY criteria. Not stock except for this or that....but stock. They're harder to work on also. Handling balance changes. Now some of this may be a acceptable tolerance......but that don't make it stock.
550whp NA 346 that has any stock streetable manners , that’s funny. I would definitely like to see that dyno shootout. Wonder why all those street outlaws are converting to turbos? They must not know how reliable a high hp per ci normally aspirated engine is? You take me as the kind of guy who would drive up to a cop to report a wrongdoing, while drinking a beer.
Someone that has a clue and builds boosted stuff only requires oil changes and spark plugs.....how terribly unreliable. Mine has A/C, heat, full stereo, no solid suspension, no creaks and rattles from missing/removed insulation, no deaths from pulling airbags, stock drivability. Don't know why this is so difficult for some to understand. THATS THE POINT OF BOOST.....we don't need to hack our cars up and rev to the moon just to run a number, we do it with area under the curve power of boost.
n.a i would had made more power and faster time slips
lolzzz! Meanwhile the NA crew is talking about snapping rockers is normal and a consumable item... gee sounds like so much fun! If stock rockers work fine for 1000++ hp why would anyone bother wasting money and stubbing their toe repeatedly to barely make 550hp? Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Could care less what they run, they aren't spewing **** out of their mouths.
Damn right, you saw the sticker because I was in front of you! Sucks being slower then a gay VW doesn't it. And yet somehow even it doesnt blow up on 30lbs of boost but you manage to break NA LS's lolzzzz
Their here spewing **** dumbass. Wtf other reason are they here? You ain't real bright.
I seen the sticker at a stop light. $ is on you being queer fo sho.
Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
lol 1.7 to a 1.2 Dammmmnnnnnnnnn! Sure it was magic!
It happens. Had some 1.6s and 1.5 to. Surely it's capable of better than a 1.7
Originally Posted by cdk4219
550whp NA 346 that has any stock streetable manners , that’s funny. I would definitely like to see that dyno shootout. Wonder why all those street outlaws are converting to turbos? They must not know how reliable a high hp per ci normally aspirated engine is? You take me as the kind of guy who would drive up to a cop to report a wrongdoing, while drinking a beer.
Like i already said phil we built phils h/c ls3 and it has 576whp. It's streetable. He's drove it errywhere. I see no reason a 5.7 can't get to 550ish and be streetable.
I don't think anyone hete is going for street outlaw type power. If they are then they're doin it wrong. But i saud the same thing when many switched to tt.
Many of you have such minuscule little peckers that you got up in arms about what i initially said. All in defense of your own issues.
Once again.....i like tt. Have saud many times if i was going for big power i would go tt. Op is not going for big power.......this is what you overlooked acting like morons. Op isn't using a 4.8 or 5.3.......again. mistakes on your part.
Originally Posted by ddnspider
Someone that has a clue and builds boosted stuff only requires oil changes and spark plugs.....how terribly unreliable. Mine has A/C, heat, full stereo, no solid suspension, no creaks and rattles from missing/removed insulation, no deaths from pulling airbags, stock drivability. Don't know why this is so difficult for some to understand. THATS THE POINT OF BOOST.....we don't need to hack our cars up and rev to the moon just to run a number, we do it with area under the curve power of boost.
I have all insulation....more than stick actually. No creaks or rattles.....suspension rubber bushed to. Ac/cruise/monsoon. Didn't upset the balance like you for better accident avoidance. The safest airbags are the ones not getting used.
How did your perform so hideously?
Originally Posted by panda240ss
n.a i would had made more power and faster time slips
Maybe....how fast is it.
Originally Posted by panda240ss
even the guys at sloppy mechs have figure out how to make power for close to nothing. shittt, even reusing head bolts, gaskets and such!.
look at matts current project .8s for 8.
i mean cmon 550 was fast back in the days. now days....550 seems kinda slow.
Nah.....even cars with 400 can run well. Hell i only had 417 when i ran 130+ and 10s.
The trans will live longer with a centrifugal than the torque curve of a turbo. Easier to hook up on the street as well. Really comes down to tradeoffs you're willing to live with. Turbo's are typically harder to package with more changes of melting stuff underhood due to proximity to other components. Blowers have to deal with belt slip and changes in pulley size to change the boost unless you do a wastegated setup on the cold side. Blower will accommodate a more rowdy cam and can reuse your N/A exhaust assuming its decent. Turbo you can recoup some money by selling that stuff and putting towards the turbo kit.
It's so funny when Hiollary runs around acting like the forum cop. Trying to tell everyone what to do and what sections she thinks everyone belongs in. LOLOL
Once again.....i like tt. Have saud many times if i was going for big power i would go tt. Op is not going for big power.......this is what you overlooked acting like morons. Op isn't using a 4.8 or 5.3.......again. mistakes on your part.
He said 550 wheel, but with room to grow to 650-700.
He's in the UK and things like heads and intake manifolds all pack a heavy premium.
Even if your setup hits 550, it will be the ONE to do so. You won't have room to grow to 650 or 700.
If you do hit 550, you're missing the point we are trying to make.
Sure, you hear about a twin turbo LS1 only running 10s and it seems like a waste. All that for 10s? Two turbos and it only runs 10s?
The point is that its less than half the price of an N/A setup in the US, and less than a third of the price of the N/A setup in the UK.
It also doesn't require any machine shop work. Even IF the fabrication time on the turbo setup took you an entire weekend, that is still far faster than the average machine shop turn around time.
The only special tools it requires is a budget MIG or TIG welder and something to cut with (band saw, chop saw, sawzall, even a grinder with a cutoff wheel). No shop machinery. No expensive milling machines.
Turbos are the same price as cams now. Entire hotside setups bought already finished are less than a pair of aftermarket heads.
No need to upgrade the valvetrain. No need to upgrade the intake manifold or throttle body.
It is literally the simplest way to run 10s. Overkill? Probably. It doesn't change the fact that its by far the cheapest and easiest. That's why we do it.
Its the automotive equivalent to throwing a cast net when fishing. You can spend $300 on a nice pole to catch a few fish, or throw a $10 net and catch dozens.
It's so funny when Hiollary runs around acting like the forum cop. Trying to tell everyone what to do and what sections she thinks everyone belongs in. LOLOL
Yeah I don't think that's what i was doing. But i for sure knew you weren't bright enough to figure it out.
Originally Posted by JoeNova
He said 550 wheel, but with room to grow to 650-700.
He's in the UK and things like heads and intake manifolds all pack a heavy premium.
Even if your setup hits 550, it will be the ONE to do so. You won't have room to grow to 650 or 700.
If you do hit 550, you're missing the point we are trying to make.
Sure, you hear about a twin turbo LS1 only running 10s and it seems like a waste. All that for 10s? Two turbos and it only runs 10s?
The point is that its less than half the price of an N/A setup in the US, and less than a third of the price of the N/A setup in the UK.
It also doesn't require any machine shop work. Even IF the fabrication time on the turbo setup took you an entire weekend, that is still far faster than the average machine shop turn around time.
The only special tools it requires is a budget MIG or TIG welder and something to cut with (band saw, chop saw, sawzall, even a grinder with a cutoff wheel). No shop machinery. No expensive milling machines.
Turbos are the same price as cams now. Entire hotside setups bought already finished are less than a pair of aftermarket heads.
No need to upgrade the valvetrain. No need to upgrade the intake manifold or throttle body.
It is literally the simplest way to run 10s. Overkill? Probably. It doesn't change the fact that its by far the cheapest and easiest. That's why we do it.
Its the automotive equivalent to throwing a cast net when fishing. You can spend $300 on a nice pole to catch a few fish, or throw a $10 net and catch dozens.
If him being in uk makes it harder for na it for sure makes it harder for boost and all the little things needed to make that work. Tt definitely has more components.......which is why i told him to stay na for 550. 700 should really be his starting point not end point for tt.
Which is why i have asked several times what his acceleration goal is. If his goal is 10s don't waste your time/$ on boost for a 2500ish lb car with a ls. That was really why i said anything at all to begin with.
I don't recall needing aftermarket heads to make good power. So there's a savings. Read the sig.....451whp 423wtq. That's stock heads stock cam.....sbe. 90k mile bolt on ls6. Pump gas even, add 10whp for e85. Maybe 12 but 10 fo sho from what i have seen.
Now i think op may just want tt. And that's fine. He should just set his goals higher.
Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
You call me gay, then state your thinking about everyone's dick...
