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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
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It doesn't matter if you make 700whp N/A. Its always going to be quicker, easier, cheaper to make the same amount of power with boost.
Especially when you can do it with 1 motor.....
Stock LS1-blowed up
LS6 swap-blowed up
LS7 swap-blowed up (not sure we can even say blowed up).......maybe never even got running is more suitable?
N/A FTW!!!
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:34 AM
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On 4th NA motor, maybe touched a very high 10 once in nearly 20 years of modding.....but is easier/better than FI to do?

Note: LS6 never blew up but swapped in a milk shake maker LS7 in and now rebuilding the LS6....... Legit!
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by islander033
On 4th NA motor, maybe touched a very high 10 once in nearly 20 years of modding.....but is easier/better than FI to do?

Note: LS6 never blew up but swapped in a milk shake maker LS7 in and now rebuilding the LS6....... Legit!
Really? I had heard a money shift occurred on the LS6 and broke stuff...hence the milkshake swap?
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Really? I had heard a money shift occurred on the LS6 and broke stuff...hence the milkshake swap?
Correct, the best driver on Tech did a money shift.

She claims it wasn't blown up but swaps to a different motor and now rebuilding the non blown up LS6 for some reason. Lots of work for it not being blown up...right?
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by islander033
Correct, the best driver on Tech did a money shift.

She claims it wasn't blown up but swaps to a different motor and now rebuilding the non blown up LS6 for some reason. Lots of work for it not being blown up...right?
Makes complete sense, wish I thought of that.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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how come darth has even chime in ? hillary is all on her own
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
how come darth has even chime in ? hillary is all on her own
This thread shouldn't even exist. There are reasons people don't wander into this section talking BS.....A) mods don't like it and typically lock it down (I'm guessing they like the beating he's taking), B) people who don't have a clue about FI come here to learn and ask questions not run their mouth, and C) people who help others in this section actually have a clue and call out BS when someone is full of it.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You paying shipping to right......cause you already lost.

What is target acceleration? Op still hasn't answered and it seems you may only race dynos since all you can talk is hp.

Gm did a great job with a solid foundation. that's why it's able to turn rpm.

We're not talking about your nova.

Missed where op can make whatever he wants. If op is that good then he shouldn't have a goal of only 550whp out if a 5.7.....not a 4.8......not a 5.3. But a 5.7. That's not even a goal for a 5.7 boosted.

Again....i haven't ignored his goals. That's why i have asked him for acceleration goals. It's a much more logical way to go about building a hotrod.



Ive already shown and won several categories. Do you only looking in the mirror calling yourself out.



More mouth and lies out of you. I haven't blown up any ls motors. Bent 3 valves in one during testing. No use in lying on me because your **** runs lame.

I just ran at the track a week and a half ago. More lies from someone to much of a chump to talk directly to them.
High hp NA builds out of small cubic inches suck for street cars. They idle rough and high, the power curve is silly, and they are hard on parts. It’s just that simple, a 550whp 346 is going to suck for a street car. Never mind trying 550whp NA with an auto for the street, Even if you make 550, your steeet car manners will be crude at best. The only way to do NA with high hp and manners is to go big cubic inch, which is very expensive.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
this thread shouldn't even exist. There are reasons people don't wander into this section talking bs.....a) mods don't like it and typically lock it down (i'm guessing they like the beating he's taking), b) people who don't have a clue about fi come here to learn and ask questions not run their mouth, and c) people who help others in this section actually have a clue and call out bs when someone is full of it.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
130mph car is fast. To say it's not is asinine. Especially that kinda of acceleration in a car that handles well can give one hell of a thrill.
Well your f body doesn't handle well either so its slow all around. I get it most people think their cars are fast until they get passed by a car 30MPH faster. It's 2019, there's a bunch of bone stock cars that trap over 130 and I've driven a few of them, yes they are quick for stock but its not "FAST". Quick and fast are two entirely different things, my daily can bomb around exit ramps WOT at 80+MPH it doesnt make it fast.

Originally Posted by ddnspider
Especially when you can do it with 1 motor.....
Stock LS1-blowed up
LS6 swap-blowed up
LS7 swap-blowed up (not sure we can even say blowed up).......maybe never even got running is more suitable?
N/A FTW!!!
Thats a bad streak! At least my junkyard stock 5.3 ran mid 9's in a 4k lb car before giving up smoke... he cant even get out of the high 10's in a 3k lb car with 4 engines. I wouldn't be talking smack, that's embarrassing.


Originally Posted by islander033
On 4th NA motor, maybe touched a very high 10 once in nearly 20 years of modding.....but is easier/better than FI to do?

Note: LS6 never blew up but swapped in a milk shake maker LS7 in and now rebuilding the LS6....... Legit!
lolzzzz
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
This thread shouldn't even exist. There are reasons people don't wander into this section talking BS.....A) mods don't like it and typically lock it down (I'm guessing they like the beating he's taking), B) people who don't have a clue about FI come here to learn and ask questions not run their mouth, and C) people who help others in this section actually have a clue and call out BS when someone is full of it.
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High hp NA builds out of small cubic inches suck for street cars. They idle rough and high, the power curve is silly, and they are hard on parts. It’s just that simple, a 550whp 346 is going to suck for a street car. Never mind trying 550whp NA with an auto for the street, Even if you make 550, your steeet car manners will be crude at best. The only way to do NA with high hp and manners is to go big cubic inch, which is very expensive.
Agree with both statements! And even if you do build a big inch NA engine its gonna get sucked up by a little ole 4.8L with a taiwanese tornado!
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Nova is building turbo kits in 2hrs. I would expect his poor performance.

Yea man i did weight reduction. Hotrodding 101 right theeeeerrrr. I bet you go around calling out erryone for deleting their rear seats because of that evil wr. I have a fully functional car.......2 of them that mops your max effort h/c car.

The car ran 10.76 to....eat it. Wait till slow sedan looks at you and laughs after knowing your pile gets walked by 12 .2 @ 114 carsAgain....because you are a liar. I bent 3 valves in one motor testing a ignition cut.

Why lie about anything? Is it because your own results was so poor
Are you embarrassed in this section so once again you're changing the direction of the conversation because you can't back up your NA > boost bullshit? How many times you gonna duck JoeNova? When was my car ever mentioned? 0 times? Insecure much?

Alright I'll stop now, I realize this is a tech section.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Literally every single one of them has made more than 550 wheel and ran 10s or better. Even my 4.8 on just wastegate pressure through a TH400 made more than 550.

It doesn't matter if you make 700whp N/A. Its always going to be quicker, easier, cheaper to make the same amount of power with boost.
Maybe you don't know what to do with all that power then.

Originally Posted by ddnspider
Especially when you can do it with 1 motor.....
Stock LS1-blowed up
LS6 swap-blowed up
LS7 swap-blowed up (not sure we can even say blowed up).......maybe never even got running is more suitable?
N/A FTW!!!
I didn't blow up the ls1.

The ls6 didn't blow up

The ls7 had a unforeseen issue. I sure hope nothing like that happens to any of you. But if you wanna be a pos and go there on a fellow hotrodder then carma is a bitch.

Originally Posted by islander033
On 4th NA motor, maybe touched a very high 10 once in nearly 20 years of modding.....but is easier/better than FI to do?

Note: LS6 never blew up but swapped in a milk shake maker LS7 in and now rebuilding the LS6....... Legit!
You know the story. No reason to be a lying bitch.

Originally Posted by ddnspider
Really? I had heard a money shift occurred on the LS6 and broke stuff...hence the milkshake swap?
Didn't break anything. Bent 3 valves. Drove home like that. Put 3 valves in it and drove it more.

Originally Posted by islander033
Correct, the best driver on Tech did a money shift.

She claims it wasn't blown up but swaps to a different motor and now rebuilding the non blown up LS6 for some reason. Lots of work for it not being blown up...right?
Oh i forgot you8the bestest driver ever. Has 900whp 2 power adders on a built 5.4 and can't leave the 10s. Your* awesome

Originally Posted by panda240ss
how come darth has even chime in ? hillary is all on her own
He has a build thread. Read it.

Originally Posted by ddnspider
This thread shouldn't even exist. There are reasons people don't wander into this section talking BS.....A) mods don't like it and typically lock it down (I'm guessing they like the beating he's taking), B) people who don't have a clue about FI come here to learn and ask questions not run their mouth, and C) people who help others in this section actually have a clue and call out BS when someone is full of it.
I'm not taking the beating. I'm giving it. You can't make lie and win a argument........it's just that simple.

Originally Posted by cdk4219
High hp NA builds out of small cubic inches suck for street cars. They idle rough and high, the power curve is silly, and they are hard on parts. It’s just that simple, a 550whp 346 is going to suck for a street car. Never mind trying 550whp NA with an auto for the street, Even if you make 550, your steeet car manners will be crude at best. The only way to do NA with high hp and manners is to go big cubic inch, which is very expensive.
So now all h/c cars are crap?

I kinda expect my 550ish whp 346 to drive as well as phils 576whp h/c ls3. Which is pretty good.

Does it drive like stock.....no. but neither does any hotrod i ever rode in. There's always that one thing.

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Well your f body doesn't handle well either so its slow all around. I get it most people think their cars are fast until they get passed by a car 30MPH faster. It's 2019, there's a bunch of bone stock cars that trap over 130 and I've driven a few of them, yes they are quick for stock but its not "FAST". Quick and fast are two entirely different things, my daily can bomb around exit ramps WOT at 80+MPH it doesnt make it fast.



Thats a bad streak! At least my junkyard stock 5.3 ran mid 9's in a 4k lb car before giving up smoke... he cant even get out of the high 10's in a 3k lb car with 4 engines. I wouldn't be talking smack, that's embarrassing.




lolzzzz
Tell snail95 how much of a turd his pile is. He literally get railed by 114 cars on the roll.

Last time i had a g meter in my fbody it held over 1.1g sustained . It's probably better now. So yea they can handle very well.


Hey you wanna know what you idiots have in common.......none of you have ran 10s na mustless with bolt ons.
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So now all h/c cars are crap?

I kinda expect my 550ish whp 346 to drive as well as phils 576whp h/c ls3. Which is pretty good.

Does it drive like stock.....no. but neither does any hotrod i ever rode in. There's always that one thing.
A turbo car can have both worlds, that’s why manufacturers build them. Ferrari builds some great high power NA engines, they don’t seem to last long, and they are pretty expensive
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Last time i had a g meter in my fbody it held over 1.1g sustained . It's probably better now. So yea they can handle very well.

Hey you wanna know what you idiots have in common.......none of you have ran 10s na mustless with bolt ons.
Thanks for confirming my statement... 1.1g is about like a 130mph trap, uneventful. My Volkswagen pulls more gforce then your race car lol

Never tried to run 10's NA in a 3k lb car, but I ran low 11's in a 4,100lb car with the engine that came with it and never blew it up. I'm sure if I took the weight loss steps you did and shed 1000lbs it would have run solid 10's. But I had no desire to run 10's for years on end, it got boring fast as did the 130mph traps.

I guess I could take the turbos off my vette and see what it run's NA, pretty sure it could crack a 10 considering a lot of guys do that basically stock. But again why bother wasting time to be boring and slow? Easier to just gap people by buslengths, esp ones that only trap 130 MPH.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
.... Oh i forgot you8the bestest driver ever. Has 900whp 2 power adders on a built 5.4 and can't leave the 10s. ...

Last time i had a g meter in my fbody it held over 1.1g sustained . It's probably better now. So yea they can handle very well.....none of you have ran 10s na mustless with bolt ons.
*Blower only, ~700lbs heavier than your hacked up turds, with a trans that don't shift for **** and still around 1 second faster than you have ever gone. :haha:

Deflections, straight up lies, stips and bad spelling are the Hiollary way....... I enjoy how lateral G has now been introduced.

PS. Did Hiollary post up all her 10s slips yet??????
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So .6x faster with 2 power adders, built motor almost double the power and a 550 weight difference. In a car with race brakes on race fuel and some cobbled up **** that apparently keeps it from accelerating. Cause 10s with that much power is pathetic.
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Originally Posted by islander033
*Blower only, ~700lbs heavier than your hacked up turds, with a trans that don't shift for **** and still around 1 second faster than you have ever gone. :haha:

Deflections, straight up lies, stips and bad spelling are the Hiollary way....... I enjoy how lateral G has now been introduced.

PS. Did Hiollary post up all her 10s slips yet??????
She may as well post up her road course lap times too so I can laugh at those too! I never knew NA people in the FI section could provide so much entertainment!

I'm guessing her fastest pass is what I would call an aborted pass... I've let off at the 1/8th and coasted to a 10.1 Wonder if she can do that NA?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
So .6x faster with 2 power adders, built motor almost double the power and a 550 weight difference. In a car with race brakes on race fuel and some cobbled up **** that apparently keeps it from accelerating. Cause 10s with that much power is pathetic.
You're so cute when you lie. Keep it up honey, looks good on you. lol

Post up all your 10s slips... the one where you did a 1.2x 60ft on road race setup is very magical!
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Originally Posted by cdk4219
A turbo car can have both worlds, that’s why manufacturers build them. Ferrari builds some great high power NA engines, they don’t seem to last long, and they are pretty expensive
No turbos cars don't either. There is always that one thing . Aftermarket turbos are never gonna have the reliability as stock stuff either. When you say like stock it has to meet EVERY criteria. Not stock except for this or that....but stock. They're harder to work on also. Handling balance changes. Now some of this may be a acceptable tolerance......but that don't make it stock.

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Thanks for confirming my statement... 1.1g is about like a 130mph trap, uneventful. My Volkswagen pulls more gforce then your race car lol

Never tried to run 10's NA in a 3k lb car, but I ran low 11's in a 4,100lb car with the engine that came with it and never blew it up. I'm sure if I took the weight loss steps you did and shed 1000lbs it would have run solid 10's. But I had no desire to run 10's for years on end, it got boring fast as did the 130mph traps.

I guess I could take the turbos off my vette and see what it run's NA, pretty sure it could crack a 10 considering a lot of guys do that basically stock. But again why bother wasting time to be boring and slow? Easier to just gap people by buslengths, esp ones that only trap 130 MPH.
You must really think snail and zoolanders cars are turds then.

I'm sure your vw does. It probably has a rainbow sticker on the back to like most of them.

Well i guess like one of you told be earlier. Till you have you haven't.
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