Lets talk intakes
Killer Mustang. Very nice craftsmanship went into that build, wish I had the know how!
I hate to thread highjack, just have a quick question. I'm running the Vic Jr. the intake flange has been milled slightly to allow an Aarons Elbow and hood clearance on my 2004 GTO. Edlebrock 90mm TB.
Stock ECU with HP Tuners, twin 66/65 Turbonetics on a fairly built 408 iron block.
I only plan to run up to 800WHP at MOST. Should I be concerned with the fueling issues that I JUST learned of here in this thread?
Thanks. Sorry for the highjack
I hate to thread highjack, just have a quick question. I'm running the Vic Jr. the intake flange has been milled slightly to allow an Aarons Elbow and hood clearance on my 2004 GTO. Edlebrock 90mm TB.
Stock ECU with HP Tuners, twin 66/65 Turbonetics on a fairly built 408 iron block.
I only plan to run up to 800WHP at MOST. Should I be concerned with the fueling issues that I JUST learned of here in this thread?
Thanks. Sorry for the highjack
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DBRODS, What rpm are you hitting? I hear these lose bottom end a bit and have to be spun higher to get into the power. Im trying to decide between this intake an the Hi Ram. Of course I launch at 4k+ and am at 6k instantly on the track so it never sees below 6k when at the track. Forged bottom end so now I can spin it higher too. Was at 7k limiter, now that will go up.
I just like the lower profile on the sniper which keeps my truck hood stock.
I just like the lower profile on the sniper which keeps my truck hood stock.
Im 370" TEA TFS 235 and F1A-94
DBRODS, What rpm are you hitting? I hear these lose bottom end a bit and have to be spun higher to get into the power. Im trying to decide between this intake an the Hi Ram. Of course I launch at 4k+ and am at 6k instantly on the track so it never sees below 6k when at the track. Forged bottom end so now I can spin it higher too. Was at 7k limiter, now that will go up.
I just like the lower profile on the sniper which keeps my truck hood stock.
I just like the lower profile on the sniper which keeps my truck hood stock.
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Thank you. Its a Gen 4 aluminum 5.3 with stock rods, pistons, and crank. The journals have been polished and king bearings installed. Rings opened up to 0.026 top and 0.028 on second. 1/2" studs and DBRods cutter gaskets. Studs where done in preparation when we build the motor later down the road if necessary. 243 heads with BTR springs, trunion kit, pushrods, and stage 2 twin turbo cam. Turbo is S484 with 1.58AR and built 4L80E with PTC converter. Holley Dominator ECU.
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Thanks for the info. Ill have a forged bottom end now so rpm shouldn't be an issue. My limiting factor may be the lifters, but they are Johnson 2116lsr so I think I am safe to 8k. 3/8th Manton heat treated stage 5 pushrods are good to go as well. Cam is pretty tame and not really aggressive on the lobe so it shouldn't cause any valve bouncing or floating.
My issue is space. The Hi Ram is going to create some work in getting it to fit. Ill no doubt have to run the TB into the firewall because the snout on the intake sticks out too far to run it towards the front, I have no room to get my cold pipes hooked up. And Ill most likely have to cut the hood open. Im trying to keep the body stock appearing.
My issue is space. The Hi Ram is going to create some work in getting it to fit. Ill no doubt have to run the TB into the firewall because the snout on the intake sticks out too far to run it towards the front, I have no room to get my cold pipes hooked up. And Ill most likely have to cut the hood open. Im trying to keep the body stock appearing.
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As Z says, this covers some of the height and forward room aspects.
http://shearerfabrications.com/sf06-05001.html
Must admit it would be nice as a fully fabricated piece, but starting with a cast unit does make a lot of sense too.
I did kind of ask in that G1Pro thread if the guy could make something like it and maybe an inch or so lower but he never did respond.
But Shearers is lower and shorter than a regular HiRam, and also looks shorter than even a stock intake TB position.
Very tempted by that myself, but still need to see if it would fit, height would be touch and go for me.
http://shearerfabrications.com/sf06-05001.html
Must admit it would be nice as a fully fabricated piece, but starting with a cast unit does make a lot of sense too.
I did kind of ask in that G1Pro thread if the guy could make something like it and maybe an inch or so lower but he never did respond.
But Shearers is lower and shorter than a regular HiRam, and also looks shorter than even a stock intake TB position.
Very tempted by that myself, but still need to see if it would fit, height would be touch and go for me.
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I made a dual plenum almost identical in nature to Ron's manifold a couple years ago
It definitely is fantastic for distribution, even these simple vids give an idea of how it equalizes velocity in the plenum for all runners
It definitely is fantastic for distribution, even these simple vids give an idea of how it equalizes velocity in the plenum for all runners
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Even if you can't afford 8 o2 sensors, you could probably swing two. It would be interesting to log the inners and outers on a couple cylinders. This would prove out Lance's point. A tunnelram with 2 4's or Ron's manifold would be worth it in cost savings vs. burning up cylinders.
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We've run mid 8's at 160+ with the first version Chinese Sniper, no issues to date. Sure it may be down a little power compared to a hi ram but for someone that doesn't want to cut their cowl or hood it doesn't seem like a drastic power loss.
This thread is FULL of win. DBRODS wow dude, impressive project I will be using that as inspiration without a doubt!
Back to topic, the genIV truck/TBSS intake shows promise, is no one using that?
Back to topic, the genIV truck/TBSS intake shows promise, is no one using that?
I can't say enough good things about the quality of work and commitment from DBRODS. That's my foxbody...let me tell you the setup flat out works...better than we could've imagined. Anyway...the race sniper has performed and is definitely nice for hood clearance. Don't even need that 4" cowl hood but **** it, I got it might as well rock it. I wasn't opposed to the truck intake but seeing as I went overboard on other things, uh yeah here we are 
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Thanks for the info guy. And yes, Mr. Hyde thats a very nice ride. Your pretty close to me, so let me know if you ever hit SAR and run it. Im going to be testing to get ready for next seasons no prep events.
Im so damm on the fence about the intake though. I would love the Hi Ram for the power, but the tests show the sniper only a few hp less when NA. I like the clearance. Called Johnson today and he stated the lifters are good to 9k and my rotating assy will be fine to that as well. Stock rockers may be an issue but I dont plan to turn it over 8k if it can make the power up to that and not beyond.
Im so damm on the fence about the intake though. I would love the Hi Ram for the power, but the tests show the sniper only a few hp less when NA. I like the clearance. Called Johnson today and he stated the lifters are good to 9k and my rotating assy will be fine to that as well. Stock rockers may be an issue but I dont plan to turn it over 8k if it can make the power up to that and not beyond.
Odd, I checked some old pics and the standard sniper looks VERY similar to the PC sheet metal fleabay intake that was circling around for a while. The first few were cheap as hell too. The Hi-Ram dominated builds during that time but it would be interesting to see a boosted intake test similar to this one on a 5.3 of course 
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/20-ls...ifolds-tested/
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/20-ls...ifolds-tested/
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Thank you. Its a Gen 4 aluminum 5.3 with stock rods, pistons, and crank. The journals have been polished and king bearings installed. Rings opened up to 0.026 top and 0.028 on second. 1/2" studs and DBRods cutter gaskets. Studs where done in preparation when we build the motor later down the road if necessary. 243 heads with BTR springs, trunion kit, pushrods, and stage 2 twin turbo cam. Turbo is S484 with 1.58AR and built 4L80E with PTC converter. Holley Dominator ECU.