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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 07:12 AM
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I went ahead and bought an LNC-2001 hoping I could get my GT55 to spool quicker on the brake by pulling timing. Any ideas on how much I should pull to begin with? I know it's better for manual cars, but I was told it can be done with an auto...
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 11:05 AM
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How much timing is in it where it starts to make positive pressure?
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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Their site says it can retard up to 15*, depending on where you start that may not be enough to make it really work.
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 04:48 PM
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I’ve had better luck advancing on the two step.
Just gonna need to see what it likes.
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So, right now I have about 20 degrees of advance and a 13.0AFR at 85kpa, which is atmospheric here in Colorado. It stays around that all the way to 105kpa, which is around 2psi.

It spools in about 5 seconds at 4800 feet where I live, but when we got her up to Bandimere, with a DA of 8500, it wouldn't spool at all on the t-brake. I figured I'd try this out.
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Zheadsncam
So, right now I have about 20 degrees of advance and a 13.0AFR at 85kpa, which is atmospheric here in Colorado. It stays around that all the way to 105kpa, which is around 2psi.

It spools in about 5 seconds at 4800 feet where I live, but when we got her up to Bandimere, with a DA of 8500, it wouldn't spool at all on the t-brake. I figured I'd try this out.
Put some timing in it. 20* is going to be a dog out of boost. I never tuned anything at 4800ft but in the transbrake area at 100kpa or before I would be in the 30s timing. You need to get into some boost before dumping timing out will help.
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Like Mike said, it has to have timing in it to help it come up on the converter.. otherwise it'll take a long time to come up, or won't at all.

Also, have to maybe consider a stator change in the converter if it's still coming up slow.
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Well, I was just looking at a log. I was mistaken. It does have 30 degrees in it up until about 105kpa. 32 degrees at 95kpa. Damn.

I hope I can figure this out before May. I really don't want to see another 2.20 60ft time again. Lol.

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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 05:12 PM
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What's the RPM target? How much timing does it drop to when it starts to make positive pressure?
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What's the RPM target? How much timing does it drop to when it starts to make positive pressure?

So, I believe anything over 85kpa is boost here at 4800 feet...It's a bit lower at the track at like 5800 not factoring in the DA.

It's got 30ish degrees until 105kpa, then it drops to 26degrees until 110kpa, 22 degrees after that, and 20 degrees at 120kpa, which is 5psi factoring in the 85kpa atmospheric here in colorado. This is around 3400rpm. High 12's to low 13's afr until 105kpa, then mid 11's at 120kpa.


I think if all else fails, I'll remove a significant portion of the downpipe, seeing as it's v-banded together. That should help with spool.
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Originally Posted by 98Zheadsncam
So, I believe anything over 85kpa is boost here at 4800 feet...It's a bit lower at the track at like 5800 not factoring in the DA.

It's got 30ish degrees until 105kpa, then it drops to 26degrees until 110kpa, 22 degrees after that, and 20 degrees at 120kpa, which is 5psi factoring in the 85kpa atmospheric here in colorado. This is around 3400rpm. High 12's to low 13's afr until 105kpa, then mid 11's at 120kpa.


I think if all else fails, I'll remove a significant portion of the downpipe, seeing as it's v-banded together. That should help with spool.
At 120kpa I would still have high 20s timing at least, in the transbrake area and surrounding. With a mid-high 12s AFR at 120kpa. But just try different stuff and see what it likes. What is your 2 step set at?
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