Gap the rings or send it?
Gap the rings or send it? Bought a gen4 6.0 shortblock and got quoted $600 to tear it apart gap rings and reassemble. Needless to say I'm not paying that for a $500 motor. Thinking about just throwing it in and crossing my fingers. Be about 15-18psi around 800whp. Who has had experience with stock gapped rings?
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Do it your self? Takes a minimal amount of tools and just a little bit of time.... take the heads off, pop a piston out and measure the gap and you will know for sure instead of rolling the dice.....
Is it just a gap, or hone, clean, new head bolts, gaskets, etc.
Seems like a big liability for them if just gapping. I haven't had much luck with used motors, so I pretty much at least do a hone, re ring, look at everything.
Seems like a big liability for them if just gapping. I haven't had much luck with used motors, so I pretty much at least do a hone, re ring, look at everything.
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From: Mechanicsburg, PA
If it is a shortblock, you're already halfway there. DIY
And Force Ind, you're near me and I have to agree. Motors seem to be beat hard around here for some reason. And they are crusty/corroded from the road salt/pre-treat too.
And Force Ind, you're near me and I have to agree. Motors seem to be beat hard around here for some reason. And they are crusty/corroded from the road salt/pre-treat too.
I have yet to take any ls engine apart that did not need the carbon cleaned out of the rings . regardless of miles .
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
Its been 20 years or do since I worked in automotive machining, but if it took me 6+ hours to gap some rings I'd have been beaten about the face and neck with a mag base dial indicator
The original price quoted, is not tht bad. If u feel like u cant do it, then let them. A shop has to cover them selves if something happins or comes up in the process. Plus gaskets etc.
I could do a heater core in a Lincoln Mark 7 in 4 hours tops and book said 10hrs.... Do you think they only charged the customer for 4 or 10?
Just run it. If the tune up is spot on you will be fine.
I bent 2 rods when it overboosted and the pistons were clean when they came out. I would have re-used them if they didn't hit the counterweight.
Save the cash in case you need a rebuild later. or put it towards other parts.
I bent 2 rods when it overboosted and the pistons were clean when they came out. I would have re-used them if they didn't hit the counterweight.
Save the cash in case you need a rebuild later. or put it towards other parts.
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I have yet to take any ls engine apart that did not need the carbon cleaned out of the rings . regardless of miles .
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
I have yet to take any ls engine apart that did not need the carbon cleaned out of the rings . regardless of miles .
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
take it apart clean it all up and gap rings and you know what you have. its hard to tell what kills an engine that fails ring gaps or stuck rings from carbon= melted ****.
Well I assume there will be a small parts bill on top of the shop labor. Most shops use book labor. It may take 3-4hrs but if calls for 6 that's what they will set the price at.
I could do a heater core in a Lincoln Mark 7 in 4 hours tops and book said 10hrs.... Do you think they only charged the customer for 4 or 10?
I could do a heater core in a Lincoln Mark 7 in 4 hours tops and book said 10hrs.... Do you think they only charged the customer for 4 or 10?
at this point i'm just arguing for arguments' sake.
but i get where you're going. $500 is actually pretty cheap for someone who won't doesn't possess the skill or the tools to do it themselves.
and like many other's have said, the ringlands get gummy real quick in these engines.
