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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 02:18 PM
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exhaust length plays a huge roll in sound. I dont think LS sounds good period. they need cam and an actual exhaust.
my combo is 6.0L, 228/228, 3" downpipes, 3" X pipe, 3" out the back, no mufflers yet. but still sounds acceptable




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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FourG63 97GST
exhaust length plays a huge roll in sound. I dont think LS sounds good period. they need cam and an actual exhaust.
my combo is 6.0L, 228/228, 3" downpipes, 3" X pipe, 3" out the back, no mufflers yet. but still sounds acceptable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWVFsCB6H2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghXBun_Skx8
Sounds good to me. I think that LS2 is going to sound a lot better than a 6.0L truck motor, or any stock truck motor at that.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2K_Camaro
Sounds good to me. I think that LS2 is going to sound a lot better than a 6.0L truck motor, or any stock truck motor at that.
why, compression?
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FourG63 97GST
why, compression?
Taking a wild guess that's probably the reason. Just seems like truck motors never sound as good as LS1/2/3 etc...All my vehicles have truck motors lol. LS1 swapped my girlfriends Silverado with LS6 heads and a 228r cam on a 110 LSA, long tubes and a 3" Dynomax bullet sounds beautiful!
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2K_Camaro
Taking a wild guess that's probably the reason. Just seems like truck motors never sound as good as LS1/2/3 etc...All my vehicles have truck motors lol. LS1 swapped my girlfriends Silverado with LS6 heads and a 228r cam on a 110 LSA, long tubes and a 3" Dynomax bullet sounds beautiful!
I'm going with exhaust configuration is the main cause, here's my car, near identical motor/cam, but with a single turbo setup, single 3" downpipe and mid pipe, and sounds like a truck to me

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:35 AM
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Compression plays a big roll in sound. Also cam timing. Heavily advanced cam will give more of a raspy note. My 212/212 @ 112 cam was installed on a goofy crank. It was like 8* retarded dot to dot. Degreed in the cam to 1* advanced from the card and it was a whole new animal. Went form 160 cranking compression to 200ish. Sound difference was very noticeable. Picked up just under 12mph in the quarter at the same boot level as well.
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FourG63 97GST
I'm going with exhaust configuration is the main cause, here's my car, near identical motor/cam, but with a single turbo setup, single 3" downpipe and mid pipe, and sounds like a truck to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac1ekRHMFDE
Yeah I see what you mean, configuration plays a big part in it. I use to have a LS1 Camaro with a cam, long tubes and a y pipe to a single bullet muffler. Then switched to a x pipe and bullets, sounded much better.

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Compression plays a big roll in sound. Also cam timing. Heavily advanced cam will give more of a raspy note. My 212/212 @ 112 cam was installed on a goofy crank. It was like 8* retarded dot to dot. Degreed in the cam to 1* advanced from the card and it was a whole new animal. Went form 160 cranking compression to 200ish. Sound difference was very noticeable. Picked up just under 12mph in the quarter at the same boot level as well.
Didn't know cam timing would change the sound too. Guess it kind of makes sense though. How did you figure out you had a weird crank?
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 12:04 PM
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When you get the degree wheel on the car you can see where the cam falls “dot to dot” on a factory timing set. This should match your cam card. Usually they are fine. I’ve built about 10 of these engines and only seen 1 with the “goofy crank”. To verify, we installed the same cam on another motor with the factory timing set and it was within a degree of the cam card. So defiantly the crank. Few others have had this issue as well, but it isn’t common and may not have anything to do with your issues. All I’m aware of were on GEN4 ALUM 5.3 engines.
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 01:51 PM
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Forcefed, do you recall if it had VVT or not? I have a Gen4 Alum 5.3 and degree'd my BTR Stage2 turbo cam. It was within a degree dot-dot. Mine is an earlier LC9 that had DOD, but no VVT.
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Old Jul 30, 2018 | 02:13 PM
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It did have the VVT and was a 2008 engine. Originally I thought that might have been the missing link too, but I’ve heard of many people with gen4 VVT engines and the cams lining up just fine. I really don’t have an answer.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
When you get the degree wheel on the car you can see where the cam falls “dot to dot” on a factory timing set. This should match your cam card. Usually they are fine. I’ve built about 10 of these engines and only seen 1 with the “goofy crank”. To verify, we installed the same cam on another motor with the factory timing set and it was within a degree of the cam card. So defiantly the crank. Few others have had this issue as well, but it isn’t common and may not have anything to do with your issues. All I’m aware of were on GEN4 ALUM 5.3 engines.
Ok I see. Thanks for the info, definitely keeping this in mind for the future.
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Old Jul 31, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=7w_lx0W3iyI
Ron_stoppable requested I post a video of how my car sounds. I'm not sure if this will work but here's a walk around of my car at idle after changing from the really obnoxious race bullets to 3 1/2 inch magnaflows. I cant get this link to work any ideas?

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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vinceI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7w_lx0W3iyI
Ron_stoppable requested I post a video of how my car sounds. I'm not sure if this will work but here's a walk around of my car at idle after changing from the really obnoxious race bullets to 3 1/2 inch magnaflows. I cant get this link to work any ideas?
That sounds good to me!
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CamZ28
That sounds good to me!
thanks, the magnaflow mufflers really took the nasty crackle out of it. I think it sounds good now and as a bonus I can here the radio while driving.
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Old Aug 1, 2018 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by vinceI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7w_lx0W3iyI
Ron_stoppable requested I post a video of how my car sounds. I'm not sure if this will work but here's a walk around of my car at idle after changing from the really obnoxious race bullets to 3 1/2 inch magnaflows. I cant get this link to work any ideas?
Yeah those Magnaflows do sound good. Might have to see about running those on my car.
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I have a set of Pype's 3" out the back with a set of Magnaflows for mine, I hope it sounds half as good haha.
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Here’s. Video of mine with the cam installed. Will have another idle clip here in the next week or two of another cam also.

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finally was able to make a little boost after switching over to a Holley ecu. This was only at 2lbs rolling into it with straight pipes out the fenders.
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 12:28 PM
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cam timing has a HUGE effect on sound.As overlap is the most detrimental. As you Retard/Advance your cam, you're essentially altering your cylinder pressure AKA "Dynamic Compression". Hence, why ForceFed's Crank compression increased by a large margin. Cylinder pressure= Power, So as long as you have the octane to support it. My crank was 10* retarded right out of the factory.
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Heres mine with twin PTE 67s and a 5.3. 11:1 compression and 8000rpm.

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