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Old Feb 8, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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Well I've been reading and reading about intercoolers... I run a Precision IC on my GN with an Alky Control progressive meth kit and log IAT's. The project I'm working on now is on a budget and is drag only. Goal is 850 ish HP but would like room to grow. Originally was thinking about the Vibrant 875 HP for like $380. Then read the Treadstone is better so thought about the 1000 HP for $450ish. Then thought WTF might as well go to the Treadstone 1200 HP for $560. Then read about people's IAT temp running A2A without Meth and thought I may need to add a Meth kit. Then read and thought A2W might be better for my application so have been reading about the Frozen Boost kits for $475. Looking for some opinions considering I started with the idea of spending $400 on an IC. Space should not be an issue.
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 04:37 AM
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Garrett make the best cores.

But if you have ice available, then A2W to make use of ice would be the best given you say drag only. ( or even chilled water )
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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1300hp treadstone is a great piece for the money, making 1k wheel and my temps rise 25* on 23psi. I had 1000hp core on a 800whp car and temps were terrible. 100*+ rise on 14psi

Imo if you want to spend the money once go with no corners cut fab or Shearer fab. They use bell or garret cores and fab quality is amazing
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Old Feb 9, 2019 | 11:24 AM
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On the topic of cores....anyone ever heard of or used these guys ?

They were at a recent trade show here in the UK, and their cores did actually look very good. Bar and plate style very similar to Garrett and also what looked like very high fin density too. Very keen pricing too. I'd never heard of them before.

http://csfrace.com/
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Old Feb 14, 2019 | 06:46 PM
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For drag only why not just spray more meth?
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Old Feb 14, 2019 | 08:04 PM
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Well after going roumd and round I decided on A2W.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 07:46 AM
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More meth or E85 and NO intercooler.
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More meth or E85 and NO intercooler.
This is what I am doing. I don't see the sense in carrying the weight, expense, or restriction of an intercooler.



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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
This is what I am doing. I don't see the sense in carrying the weight, expense, or restriction of an intercooler.
Don't see the sense in restriction of an intercooler, but then uses a truck intake manifold! lol
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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Don't see the sense in restriction of an intercooler, but then uses a truck intake manifold! lol
Oh good... here we go again with the needle-dick comments. Is this Facebook? There is whole thread highlighting the capabilities of that particular intake... which ironically is not the subject of debate here.

Add value or take a walk... because you read like kingTal0n - only a really simple version.
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i liked the treadstone performance intercoolers?
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
Oh good... here we go again with the needle-dick comments. Is this Facebook? There is whole thread highlighting the capabilities of that particular intake... which ironically is not the subject of debate here.

Add value or take a walk... because you read like kingTal0n - only a really simple version.
I've been down that road with that intake. If you have fairly mediocre goals then I'm sure it will suit you just fine, obviously not shooting for the moon with that setup.

Your right this isn't facebook, so you should stop waggin your **** holster like it is.







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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Don't see the sense in restriction of an intercooler, but then uses a truck intake manifold! lol
Truck manifold is light and works.

Although an intercooler is only restrictive if you build a restrictive one.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Truck manifold is light and works.

Although an intercooler is only restrictive if you build a restrictive one.
Ya it works for a fairly low boost chang turbo setup, most any manifold will "work" in that application. The decision comes when its worth spending money for a better one vs buying a new turbo or other options. To some people spending $500-600 for 5MPH is worth it, others never turn the boost up high enough to matter.

I agree an IC is generally only as restrictive as your budget, but based on a lot of peoples ching chang turbo selections the intercooler could be pretty restrictive.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 02:59 PM
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The car had a massive Griffin down flow radiator in it which I plan to use. It is somewhat split in half and suspect just a hole in the top and bottom bulkheads. So what I’m thinking about doing is blockimg the hole and run the right half to the engine and the left to the A2W IC. Aka heat exchanger.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Justa6MB
The car had a massive Griffin down flow radiator in it which I plan to use. It is somewhat split in half and suspect just a hole in the top and bottom bulkheads. So what I’m thinking about doing is blockimg the hole and run the right half to the engine and the left to the A2W IC. Aka heat exchanger.
You don't need a heat exchanger on a drag car. Heck you don't need one on a street car either if it's setup correctly.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Ya it works for a fairly low boost chang turbo setup, most any manifold will "work" in that application. The decision comes when its worth spending money for a better one vs buying a new turbo or other options. To some people spending $500-600 for 5MPH is worth it, others never turn the boost up high enough to matter.

I agree an IC is generally only as restrictive as your budget, but based on a lot of peoples ching chang turbo selections the intercooler could be pretty restrictive.
In most cases, the truck manifold will be in no way a restriction for their setup. And for something that spends most of it's life sub 6500rpm....there are few intakes better than the OEM stuff. And nothing beats them for value when they're free.
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You could go A2W and not use an intercooler at all..........
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
In most cases, the truck manifold will be in no way a restriction for their setup. And for something that spends most of it's life sub 6500rpm....there are few intakes better than the OEM stuff. And nothing beats them for value when they're free.
Thanks for helping prove my point, a car under 6500rpm is going to be slower and leave power on the table compared to an optimized setup that revs further out. Doesnt cost very much to take advatage of that power but some here are scared of revving an engine for some reason.
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN


Thanks for helping prove my point, a car under 6500rpm is going to be slower and leave power on the table compared to an optimized setup that revs further out. Doesnt cost very much to take advatage of that power but some here are scared of revving an engine for some reason.
Who says you need to rev an engine to make power ?

If you cant easily make over 1k staying under 7krpm...something is very badly wrong. And he stated he only wants 850hp. So why would he even need to consider 7, 8, 9, 10,000rpm ?
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