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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The ******
I think you may be pleasantly surprised how this setup performs.
There's a local guy around my town with a 5.0L Coyote Mustang running twin rear mounts where the mufflers usually reside and he doesn't have any issue with lag or any of that and they aren't small turbos.
Low expectations leave low chance of disappointment lol. Nothing crazy here, but I have been eyeing this little guy:

https://www.cxracing.com/TRB-T76-P81-N

Figure I'll get it running and boosting first and work out any bugs and then worry about swapping turbos if I want more.


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Looks great Nick! Itll look real nice one the tips are on and all that crap. I got the injectors btw, thank you!
Yeah man, it's coming together. I ended up having to cut/weld the wastegate tube because I tucked the turbo up so much higher. Also have to cut off most of the downpipe, it's just a straight shot out of the turbo now about 1.5'. Once it's sorted I'll worry about trying to finish up the downpipe to the bumper with maybe a bullet inline. Glad the injectors got there Can of brake cleaner and a car battery will clean them right out
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Old Jul 10, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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I could get you a billet vs 76/65 for not much more 450ish
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Old Jul 10, 2019 | 05:02 PM
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I could get you a billet vs 76/65 for not much more 450ish
Holla at ya boy! send me details. I want to get this GT67 up and going first but when it's time to upgrade I would be interested in that.
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Old Jul 11, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Holla at ya boy! send me details. I want to get this GT67 up and going first but when it's time to upgrade I would be interested in that.

Just lmk when your ready or if you have any questions PM me.

If you really wanted to get wild... I could get you the new Gen 2 VS billet 78/75 to test for about 590 or if any one has a car ready to test one for research purposes i could do that price.
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Old Jul 11, 2019 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by soloman369
Just lmk when your ready or if you have any questions PM me.

If you really wanted to get wild... I could get you the new Gen 2 VS billet 78/75 to test for about 590 or if any one has a car ready to test one for research purposes i could do that price.
Sounds good to me. Hoping to take the car out today with a delayed shut off circuit I bread-boarded to keep the pump running after shutoff and see if it helps the oil draining back into the turbo after shutdown.
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Old Jul 11, 2019 | 12:13 PM
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If that VS Gen 2 will make the same power as the BMF, then $590 is a STEAL.
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Old Jul 11, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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This thread has always made me curious....
http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=622
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Low expectations leave low chance of disappointment lol. Nothing crazy here, but I have been eyeing this little guy:

https://www.cxracing.com/TRB-T76-P81-N

Figure I'll get it running and boosting first and work out any bugs and then worry about swapping turbos if I want more.


Yeah man, it's coming together. I ended up having to cut/weld the wastegate tube because I tucked the turbo up so much higher. Also have to cut off most of the downpipe, it's just a straight shot out of the turbo now about 1.5'. Once it's sorted I'll worry about trying to finish up the downpipe to the bumper with maybe a bullet inline. Glad the injectors got there Can of brake cleaner and a car battery will clean them right out
Thats the same turbo that came in my FM kit for my 87 TA, decent little turbo and worked fine. Sitting in the box now that I have upped to the VS billet 78/75.
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Originally Posted by soloman369
Just lmk when your ready or if you have any questions PM me.

If you really wanted to get wild... I could get you the new Gen 2 VS billet 78/75 to test for about 590 or if any one has a car ready to test one for research purposes i could do that price.
This is tempting. Will it bolt in place of a regular 7875? Is it physically bigger? my car is together and running.......
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
This thread has always made me curious....
http://brickspeed.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=622

What catches my attention is he never mentioned what the IAT's were. Certainly he was paying attention to them? If may have been heating things up past 10Psi and dropping the timing. fueling could have went rich at that point too.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
This is tempting. Will it bolt in place of a regular 7875? Is it physically bigger? my car is together and running.......
Yes its a bigger on both exhaust housing and compressor side, also it is a 4in DP vs 3in
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
This is tempting. Will it bolt in place of a regular 7875? Is it physically bigger? my car is together and running.......
Gen 2 VS 78/75 will not bolt right in. The exhaust housing is larger and deeper so it pushes out the Vband out quite a bit. It could interfere with your setup depending on how its designed. If your WG is dumped into the DP then it def won't line up. The exhaust housing AR also jumps from a .96 to a 1.25 or something so it could affect spool as well.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Gen 2 VS 78/75 will not bolt right in. The exhaust housing is larger and deeper so it pushes out the Vband out quite a bit. It could interfere with your setup depending on how its designed. If your WG is dumped into the DP then it def won't line up. The exhaust housing AR also jumps from a .96 to a 1.25 or something so it could affect spool as well.
Well sounds like its not for me, yet. Maybe when I build a bigger motor.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 06:13 PM
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it is also divided vs non divided?
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 04:04 PM
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Looking for some input here. Having an issue with oil leaking after shutdown and it sits. A bit of chicken or the egg as far as is it the return line and scavenging or is the turbo bearings shot. I tried multiple iterations, repositioning and removing as many bends and turns in the fittings as possible and finally just let the line sit on the ground. With a check valve after the pump and the return line lower than the turbo, oil shouldn't flow back into the turbo after shutdown. The feed line has an .035 restrictor and a check valve located at the turbo to prevent it from draining into the turbo. It appears most of the oil is leaking at the turbine inlet flange. Does this setup seems reasonable to show it's the turbo? TPIZ28 gave me another idea to try and let the turbo drain into a pan and let the return line suck from the pan and see how the flow and level is which is on my list. I simply don't want to keep tweaking the pump locations and lines if the turbo seems shot and needs to be rebuilt or replaced anyways.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Looking for some input here. Having an issue with oil leaking after shutdown and it sits. A bit of chicken or the egg as far as is it the return line and scavenging or is the turbo bearings shot. I tried multiple iterations, repositioning and removing as many bends and turns in the fittings as possible and finally just let the line sit on the ground. With a check valve after the pump and the return line lower than the turbo, oil shouldn't flow back into the turbo after shutdown. The feed line has an .035 restrictor and a check valve located at the turbo to prevent it from draining into the turbo. It appears most of the oil is leaking at the turbine inlet flange. Does this setup seems reasonable to show it's the turbo? TPIZ28 gave me another idea to try and let the turbo drain into a pan and let the return line suck from the pan and see how the flow and level is which is on my list. I simply don't want to keep tweaking the pump locations and lines if the turbo seems shot and needs to be rebuilt or replaced anyways.
Does the car smoke? If it was the turbine side, you'd definitely know it. And I hate to be that guy, but did you forget to put a gasket on the drain?
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.035 restrictor? Is the turbo a JB or ball bearing? If JB I wouldn't run one. Does sound like a seal. If you got a spare turbo around can you hook it up and just lay it on the ground, prime the oil and see what it does? I like the pan idea. I always wanted to do a dedicated oil system for a turbo with a tank, cooler and pump.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Game ova
Does the car smoke? If it was the turbine side, you'd definitely know it. And I hate to be that guy, but did you forget to put a gasket on the drain?
It's been kicking some oily mist out the downpipe while running but not after shutdown. The drain fitting is screwed straight into the turbo with Teflon tape, no flange.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
.035 restrictor? Is the turbo a JB or ball bearing? If JB I wouldn't run one. Does sound like a seal. If you got a spare turbo around can you hook it up and just lay it on the ground, prime the oil and see what it does? I like the pan idea. I always wanted to do a dedicated oil system for a turbo with a tank, cooler and pump.
I realize an .035 is small, but just want to get the oiling solved first then worry about tweaking stuff. No spare turbo unfortunately. I looked into a dedicated system but didn't like the idea of a 2nd pump, a cooler, a reservoir, etc. Leaning towards turbo but don't want to spend 450 to be in the same spot lol. Hence the pan idea.
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Old Jul 16, 2019 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I realize an .035 is small, but just want to get the oiling solved first then worry about tweaking stuff. No spare turbo unfortunately. I looked into a dedicated system but didn't like the idea of a 2nd pump, a cooler, a reservoir, etc. Leaning towards turbo but don't want to spend 450 to be in the same spot lol. Hence the pan idea.
Why do you need a 2nd pump? Turbo drains into a pan, pan feeds pump, pump feeds oil to turbo or a cooler which feeds the turbo and the cycle continues. I guess the issue with yours is height, if the turbo can drain into the pan effectively (just needs to keep the level lower than the bearings) and the pump can prime out of the pan you should be good.
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