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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 10:08 PM
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I am making a transition from the carb world (400 sbc) and entering into the LS world. I have a grand national that I am planning on LS swapping. I want to make around 800 HP to the wheels. I wanted to see if someone here could help me with a decent set up and answer a few questions.

I am thinking of going LQ9 with a single turbo
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and that's pretty much as far as Ive gotten haha

Anybody have a car making that type of horsepower that I am looking for (around 800 HP) and care to share your set up? (turbo, heads, crank, pistons, cam, rods etc)?

Would this type of power be able to be driven on the street as well as the track?

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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 11:10 PM
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Theres a guy here with a grand national running a 300k mile stock 4.8 (stock cam as well) making 800whp with a single borg Warner.

Don't overthink it. You could skip the Hi-ram, run an extremely mild street cam, and with the right setup make 800 HP easily.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 01:47 PM
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th400 or 80e for a trans, whatever complete good running shortblock you can get, a chinese s480, homemade truck manifold hotside, minimum -8 feed and two 450's, bosch 210 injectors, big A2A intercooler (gonna have to get a tube core support)

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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I have a buddy of mine that has a really good deal on a pair of AFR 225 heads. I don't know much about them though. Would it be worth purchasing?
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
th400 or 80e for a trans, whatever complete good running shortblock you can get, a chinese s480, homemade truck manifold hotside, minimum -8 feed and two 450's, bosch 210 injectors, big A2A intercooler (gonna have to get a tube core support)

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I am looking through the thread now and have already taken a page of notes lol

What's the name of your youtube channel? I want to subscribe.
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I think ported heads on a turbo car is a great way to add 50+ horsepower to a combo without much risk other than the extra cash outlay. Not essential but is def nice bonus power.


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People do crazy things daily on stock gen 3 bottom ends, but my personal opinion is anything over 600rwhp is in borrowed time. Throwing some gen 4 rods in the motor would give you that insurance to keep it together at 800rwhp.

Are you shooting for a dyno number or a particular track time?
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Old Oct 2, 2019 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
People do crazy things daily on stock gen 3 bottom ends, but my personal opinion is anything over 600rwhp is in borrowed time. Throwing some gen 4 rods in the motor would give you that insurance to keep it together at 800rwhp.

Are you shooting for a dyno number or a particular track time?
Thanks for your input!

More concerned with a track time as opposed to a dyno number.

AFR vs trickflow...anyone have any suggestions for a LQ9. Or any other good set of heads anyone suggest? Stock 317s?
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Theres a guy here with a grand national running a 300k mile stock 4.8
The title "Grand National" is held in high regard, and is considered to be sacred. As SOON as the 3.8 was pulled, in favor of the LS, the car became nothing more than another Ls swapped G body.
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lol so if the motor makes it a GN, does that mean every car with that shitbucket motor is a GN? like 60's jeeps and 80's oldsmobiles too?
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
lol so if the motor makes it a GN, does that mean every car with that shitbucket motor is a GN? like 60's jeeps and 80's oldsmobiles too?
That's exactly what it is. Don't you know if you remove the LS7 from a C6Z, it just becomes the base model?
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lol so if the motor makes it a GN, does that mean every car with that shitbucket motor is a GN? like 60's jeeps and 80's oldsmobiles too?
This speech is nothing short of blasphemous. And yes, the 3.8 is what makes it a GN. Ughh....you guys are disgusting
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Any real noticeable difference in HP and performance with going with the stock 317s over a aftermarket head like AFR, CNC or trickflow?
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Old Oct 3, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 87ttopgn
Any real noticeable difference in HP and performance with going with the stock 317s over a aftermarket head like AFR, CNC or trickflow?
You can easily hit your goal of 800hp with stock heads. It's just gonna require a little more boost. If you're on any sort of a budget the money could be better used elsewhere.
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ime, stay away from trickflow. all their heads ive ever gotten new needed work out of the box. like loose guides and crap like that you dont wanna mess with after paying 2 grand.
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Originally Posted by 87ttopgn
Any real noticeable difference in HP and performance with going with the stock 317s over a aftermarket head like AFR, CNC or trickflow?
That's a pretty big debate. Some people will spend $2k on aftermarket heads just to make the same power but on fewer PSI.
In reality, you aren't really solving anything with fewer PSI except a slightly less complicated tune.

The deck thickness on aftermarket heads is a nice advantage over 1000 HP.
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