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Old Mar 15, 2020 | 10:43 PM
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Hey, welcome to the forum.
I hope you find some useful stuff here!

Did you post in the intro section?

Seems like that guy didn't know what he had. No mention of boost tuning etc. He just seemed interested in RTT.
At any rate, I've been tuning for 9 years now, and never heard of this file. Or about anyone reading an EFI Live custom OS.

I converted a buddies car from efi live to HPT, tuned it on E85 (Twin turbo 6.0) but never tried to even read his. From prev experience, I didn't think I could. I'll grab that ECU in a couple weeks and see if I can.

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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 07:30 PM
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Not sure im following the thread. I have used hp tuners and I have run the custom 2 bar OS on the stock truck PCM. It’s not hard to do. You license the PCM and write the new OS. I’ve even used it on another 5.3 for my dad by converting it from a 1bar MAF to 1 bar MAP for him. It’s actually what I used to run on a stock 5.3 with a centri supercharger up to 12psi and now I use it on my engine test stand. The 2 and 3 bar OS will have VE tables and timing tables for the corresponding map/timing for 2 and 3 bar. So you just tell it what timing u want in the boost regions and adjust the AFR via the VE table and your good.
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Not sure im following the thread. I have used hp tuners and I have run the custom 2 bar OS on the stock truck PCM. It’s not hard to do. You license the PCM and write the new OS. I’ve even used it on another 5.3 for my dad by converting it from a 1bar MAF to 1 bar MAP for him. It’s actually what I used to run on a stock 5.3 with a centri supercharger up to 12psi and now I use it on my engine test stand. The 2 and 3 bar OS will have VE tables and timing tables for the corresponding map/timing for 2 and 3 bar. So you just tell it what timing u want in the boost regions and adjust the AFR via the VE table and your good.

can you post a screenshot of your timing/boost map. Because in my 2 bar os there is definitely no timing control via boost. It’s only referenced to g/s which it only goes up to 1.20 grams per second. Once it gets past 1.20 g/s, which is around 8psi, I can no longer control timing for individual boost pressures of 9,10,11,12psi etc.
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Old Mar 16, 2020 | 11:05 PM
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We had my car on like 28 ish psi and 11*
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavn
We had my car on like 28 ish psi and 11*
All done with the 1.2 g/sec (bottom row) of the timing table.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by customblackbird
Not sure im following the thread. I have used hp tuners and I have run the custom 2 bar OS on the stock truck PCM. It’s not hard to do. You license the PCM and write the new OS. I’ve even used it on another 5.3 for my dad by converting it from a 1bar MAF to 1 bar MAP for him. It’s actually what I used to run on a stock 5.3 with a centri supercharger up to 12psi and now I use it on my engine test stand. The 2 and 3 bar OS will have VE tables and timing tables for the corresponding map/timing for 2 and 3 bar. So you just tell it what timing u want in the boost regions and adjust the AFR via the VE table and your good.
Maybe with efi live. Those sort of tables don’t exist in hptuners in any (American ls1) OS I’ve seen. Look on hptuners forum. Bill And Chris from hptuners states there is nothing you can do besides put the timing for your final boost number in the last cells

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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 03:00 AM
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The OP posted a tune above that is an EFI Live 285 kpa tune that was read by HPT.

Check it out
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavn
We had my car on like 28 ish psi and 11*
On E85?
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/market/1930901

Down to $400....just saying
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yeah a couple efi live COS's have tables that can be manipulated by HPT, as the tables were in the code to begin with.

the '04 USDM GTO with the p59 can do 3 bar with a bonus spark table for boost. I stumbled across it when searching for a lean cruise + flex fuel combo (never got it working right)

thats the 7904 OS I think.

have had much better luck with the 7903, using a hobbswitch to pull timing via grounding the IAT and setting the -38*F column to pull a lot timing for overboost protection.

but some hobbes switches are created better than others and the whole thing relies on a $15 sensor to stay alive.

so for my money (yeah lemme hear the booing) its holley or nothing
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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Boooooooooo!
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
yeah a couple efi live COS's have tables that can be manipulated by HPT, as the tables were in the code to begin with.

the '04 USDM GTO with the p59 can do 3 bar with a bonus spark table for boost. I stumbled across it when searching for a lean cruise + flex fuel combo (never got it working right)

thats the 7904 OS I think.

have had much better luck with the 7903, using a hobbswitch to pull timing via grounding the IAT and setting the -38*F column to pull a lot timing for overboost protection.

but some hobbes switches are created better than others and the whole thing relies on a $15 sensor to stay alive.

so for my money (yeah lemme hear the booing) its holley or nothing

how do I get this os for 2004 us gto? That’s what I have. I need this bonus spark table.....
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
so for my money (yeah lemme hear the booing) its holley or nothing
So true! By the time you waste hours getting widgets like an LNC2000 to work with stock ECM, you could have wired up Holley which is 10x more user friendly then hptuners and have a properly functioning safe tuneup. Don't need to fumble through 7 tables anymore to adjust one simple thing, or shamwow a custom OS with invalid sensor data, or have obscenely low boost control tuning limits. Most people don't realize how user friendly Holley really is, you can literally go from first engine start to running 8 sec passes in about 15 minutes.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
https://ls1tech.com/forums/market/1930901

Down to $400....just saying
Sell the LNC2000 and skip buying the EFI live and you can be on Holley
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Sell the LNC2000 and skip buying the EFI live and you can be on Holley
For $400? Sign me up!
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
For $400? Sign me up!
Easily... sell the wideband, skip buying a $400+ efi live cable, sell the $300 lnc-2000 and you can easily have Holley for comparable money.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Easily... sell the wideband, skip buying a $400+ efi live cable, sell the $300 lnc-2000 and you can easily have Holley for comparable money.
ohhh...now he's got to sell all his stuff used for a loss, don't forget the cortex boost controller that's used now too.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
ohhh...now he's got to sell all his stuff used for a loss, don't forget the cortex boost controller that's used now too.
He didn't need to buy any of it to begin with but good point with the boost controller he's into widgets for more then what the actual solution would cost. Either way not my problem, nor do I really care what people waste their time and money on. Just agreeing with truckdoug on the easiest path to success, especially on old ECM turbo cars. I know people want to keep stock ECM's for whatever reason and more power to them.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
He didn't need to buy any of it to begin with but good point with the boost controller he's into widgets for more then what the actual solution would cost. Either way not my problem, nor do I really care what people waste their time and money on. Just agreeing with truckdoug on the easiest path to success, especially on old ECM turbo cars. I know people want to keep stock ECM's for whatever reason and more power to them.
Whats the point of making the recommendation if someone's already bought all the "widgets"??? It hardly helps him.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Whats the point of making the recommendation if someone's already bought all the "widgets"??? It hardly helps him.
A few people recommended standalone months ago, he said he wants stock ECM so he gets to deal with the headaches that are keeping it. Really I don't care in the least I just think its funny.
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