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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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A few people recommended standalone months ago, he said he wants stock ECM so he gets to deal with the headaches that are keeping it. Really I don't care in the least I just think its funny.
AH, so you didn't have a legitimate suggestion. Just a jab. Got it! Makes sense now. The logic was not computing.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 02:30 PM
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That $400 efi live is a deal. It’s not as versatile as HP Tuners in the sense your tuneable vehicle list is far smaller...

But the GUI of the software is far better. Their COS setups are the best there is when it comes to factory pcm.

People like having EFILive/Hptuners/tunercats/etc as it will work on their vehicle, their future vehicles, their friends vehicles. The value is huge if used in that way. If you work on one vehicle then the value isn’t there AT ALL.

I have owned efilive for over ten years. Tuned the truck I bought and built last year with it. But when I set out to finish my fbody, I already had the pcm and harness... but needing boost control, wideband, staging control, 3 bar... and wanting RTT and ease of use.. I spent the $1000 thinking I was splurging. By the time the car was running I realized it saved me $1000 and the car was running way faster.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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I've tuned so many 98's for free with Efi Live its not even funny.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Easily... sell the wideband, skip buying a $400+ efi live cable, sell the $300 lnc-2000 and you can easily have Holley for comparable money.

I wasn’t going to reply, but **** it, I’ll play......

because my lnc2000 is used, I’ll get what....$200-$220
then my cortex, because not maybe people have heard of it, I might get $200-$250
and then my $130 wideband I’ll get what...70 bucks. So best case I’d get $540 back. Which given the current situation, I doubt I’d get that. And then put in $400 instead of the efi live, I’ll have $900ish total (figure shipping and pay pal fees) and the system I need is about $1300 so that’s another $400......just really not an option for me at this moment. Yea, knowing what I know now, I should have skipped all this crap but I also wasn’t planning on building a forged piston motor or taking things to where I am now. Yea, I should have known better. But shouldn’t we all know better when we begin? When I started this endeavor, I didn’t have the money to do that anyways. It started out as a low budget project and keep it below 8-10psi. Yea, that didn’t last long because we get greedy.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
That $400 efi live is a deal. It’s not as versatile as HP Tuners in the sense your tuneable vehicle list is far smaller...

But the GUI of the software is far better. Their COS setups are the best there is when it comes to factory pcm.

People like having EFILive/Hptuners/tunercats/etc as it will work on their vehicle, their future vehicles, their friends vehicles. The value is huge if used in that way. If you work on one vehicle then the value isn’t there AT ALL.

I have owned efilive for over ten years. Tuned the truck I bought and built last year with it. But when I set out to finish my fbody, I already had the pcm and harness... but needing boost control, wideband, staging control, 3 bar... and wanting RTT and ease of use.. I spent the $1000 thinking I was splurging. By the time the car was running I realized it saved me $1000 and the car was running way faster.

it is a deal. But with everything closing right now, the last thing I need to do is waste money on a car when I really shouldn’t. It’s running right now. Running good, not to it’s potential, but that’ll come once this pandemic is over with.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
it is a deal. But with everything closing right now, the last thing I need to do is waste money on a car when I really shouldn’t. It’s running right now. Running good, not to it’s potential, but that’ll come once this pandemic is over with.
I hear ya. Imagine how I felt buying a brand new enclosed car trailer off the lot this year then this hitting and everything closing. The economy crisis is far more terrifying than the corona virus at this point.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 06:31 PM
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I hear ya. Imagine how I felt buying a brand new enclosed car trailer off the lot this year then this hitting and everything closing. The economy crisis is far more terrifying than the corona virus at this point.
yea, I just bought a $50k camper a couple months ago. Paid my second note on it yesterday. Luckily we still have business for now and we not closing unless forced to.
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Old Mar 17, 2020 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
can you post a screenshot of your timing/boost map. Because in my 2 bar os there is definitely no timing control via boost. It’s only referenced to g/s which it only goes up to 1.20 grams per second. Once it gets past 1.20 g/s, which is around 8psi, I can no longer control timing for individual boost pressures of 9,10,11,12psi etc.
yea your right. Kpa to 210 is only for VE and not timing which maxes out at 1.20g/sec. honestly I have been loving my fitech 70050 which does do timing to 250kpa lol. Think it got it for $700 new and you can get them used now from guys switching over to the terminators and crap now. Fitech has been pretty good for me on the street spinning to 6500 at 15psi while giving the system no time to learn and changing the EBC on the fly.

fitech timing table attached just for ***** and giggles. I know the resolution is poo with the large jumps after 100kpa. These things are boost capable right out of the box but the main intent was NA engine swaps on the cheap.



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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
Installed my lingenfelter Lnc2000 last night. I’m using it for launch control and wanted to use it for boost timing control. I can’t log my timing because it changes it at the coils. Didnt realize that till last night. Ugh. So should I set it how I need it and trust it?
If you have HPTuners, and to use what you already have....
You can log both the LNC-2000's amount of Spark Retard, and the vehicle's Actual Timing.

You simply have to setup two new User Defined parameters in the software. If I can figure it out (obviously with help from the guy who posted the formula)...Damn near anyone should be able to, lol. I got the formula from "shenanigans", and have attached the screenshots of the formulas, and what needs to be logged in the Channels, for it to work. Only "wiring" needed, is connecting the GREY wire from LNC box, to your HPTuners "dongle", and of course however it is connected to the MAP sensor...If you have the MPVI2, I have no idea if it is the same....


LNC-2000 HPTuners Spark Retard formula



LNC-2000 HPTuners Actual Spark Timing formula


It worked GREAT with my old nitrous setup, and should work great with Boost, as well. It matched my LNC-2000's "commanded" spark retard exactly...

See the 3 screenshots in this link:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...l#post19985735

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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 10:14 AM
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Great info for KFXguy.
The MPVI2 works the same for external inputs. It’s just more of a hard wire affair. No screw terminals, and uses a different connector.
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