Should I trust it? Lnc2000
Should I trust it? Lnc2000 Installed my lingenfelter Lnc2000 last night. I’m using it for launch control and wanted to use it for boost timing control. I can’t log my timing because it changes it at the coils. Didnt realize that till last night. Ugh. So should I set it how I need it and trust it?
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Not trying to be a dick, but in my opinion you've made some questionable decisions.
so the lnc2000 is meant to be a boost timing retard or nitrous retard but that’s a questionable decision? Lots of people use it, I just don’t like the fact I can’t log and confirm my timing.
what else questionable have I done?
so I looked up some of your past posts in my other thread.
you said I should have used arp studs vs bolts in an aluminum block. I assume you meant head studs. Sorry, if you wanted to buy the studs for me, I would have used them. Otherwise I had just bought the head bolts not long ago. Plus many people have taken them past the point I ever will. Not sure why that’s questionable or a poor decision.
them you said I should have went with a gen 4 block. Again, if you were offering buy it for me, I would have been glad to. I had this engine already. So I decided to use it. Sorry if it isn’t what you’d do, maybe you have more money to spend than I do. And I actually called around and tried to find a gen 4 motor. Cheapest I found at that time was around 2 grand. Also, bottom end failure on a gen 3 engine is far more common than block failure. Prove me wrong. Especially at the power level I’m after.
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You can. You dont need additional boxes of crap to do it. I built and tuned my first turbo ls when I was 18.. about 14 years ago. All this **** people buy wasn’t available. Everything was done through the stock pcm
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Verdad Gallardo the boost timing map is only available with efi live. Hp tuners is behind the curve there. Buying efi live isn’t an option. $1200 I might as well sell the lnc2000 and my boost controller and get a holley to control everything.
im working on scaling my tune as suggested above
the boost timing map is only available with efi live. Hp tuners is behind the curve there. Buying efi live isn’t an option. $1200 I might as well sell the lnc2000 and my boost controller and get a holley to control everything.
im working on scaling my tune as suggested above
im working on scaling my tune as suggested above
HP tuners does have 2 and 3 bar “enhancements” as they call them. I don’t personally have experience as I use efi live myself but do have hptuners on the way. There is absolutely no reason you need an additional box to pull timing.
well, not trying to be a smartass, but if you have no experience with hp tuners......then how could you say there’s no reason to have an additional box to pull timing. I’ll explain. Even tho I’ve done so numerous times.
my computer, 2004 gto ls1, deals with timing in g/s and not the map sensor. It deals with fueling with the map. I have a 2 bar os right now that goes up to 210kpa on fueling only. Timing goes up to 1.2g/s which last I checked it was around 8psi I hit that wall. Then after 1.2g/s I lose the ability to control timing even further. Efi live does have the ability to control it further. I think it’s more a hp tuners shortcoming rather than my computers inability. The computer is obviously capable but hp tuners sadly doesn’t give me that option. I really should find someone with efi live. Have them add it in and although I wouldn’t be able to change it, I could use the iat map to change it somewhat.
yea. I couldn’t get it to work right. I only messed with it for about half an hour. Got it to idle but it wasn’t good and I noticed it cut my fuel consumption on my gas mileage gauge in half. So basically it would end up showing I get double the fuel mileage. Be nice if I really did but it saying I get 40mpg is a pipe dream. I’m gonna have to revisit in a few days. It did idle at .12gs instead of 20ish.
If you put an EFI live custom operating system in, HPTuners wont read it. It also won’t log it.
You are correct about 8 psi maxing the g/cyl out. I still don’t think it’s a big deal. Turn the boost up, you change the timing in the bottom row. Turn it down, either live with not quite enough timing, or throw a different tune in it.
I downloaded an 04 GTO auto. It’s a P59.
You are correct about 8 psi maxing the g/cyl out. I still don’t think it’s a big deal. Turn the boost up, you change the timing in the bottom row. Turn it down, either live with not quite enough timing, or throw a different tune in it.
I downloaded an 04 GTO auto. It’s a P59.
Last edited by RonSSNova; Mar 14, 2020 at 09:11 PM.
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so I looked up some of your past posts in my other thread.
you said I should have used arp studs vs bolts in an aluminum block. I assume you meant head studs. Sorry, if you wanted to buy the studs for me, I would have used them. Otherwise I had just bought the head bolts not long ago. Plus many people have taken them past the point I ever will. Not sure why that’s questionable or a poor decision.
them you said I should have went with a gen 4 block. Again, if you were offering buy it for me, I would have been glad to. I had this engine already. So I decided to use it. Sorry if it isn’t what you’d do, maybe you have more money to spend than I do. And I actually called around and tried to find a gen 4 motor. Cheapest I found at that time was around 2 grand. Also, bottom end failure on a gen 3 engine is far more common than block failure. Prove me wrong. Especially at the power level I’m after.
you said I should have used arp studs vs bolts in an aluminum block. I assume you meant head studs. Sorry, if you wanted to buy the studs for me, I would have used them. Otherwise I had just bought the head bolts not long ago. Plus many people have taken them past the point I ever will. Not sure why that’s questionable or a poor decision.
them you said I should have went with a gen 4 block. Again, if you were offering buy it for me, I would have been glad to. I had this engine already. So I decided to use it. Sorry if it isn’t what you’d do, maybe you have more money to spend than I do. And I actually called around and tried to find a gen 4 motor. Cheapest I found at that time was around 2 grand. Also, bottom end failure on a gen 3 engine is far more common than block failure. Prove me wrong. Especially at the power level I’m after.
well, not trying to be a smartass, but if you have no experience with hp tuners......then how could you say there’s no reason to have an additional box to pull timing. I’ll explain. Even tho I’ve done so numerous times.
my computer, 2004 gto ls1, deals with timing in g/s and not the map sensor. It deals with fueling with the map. I have a 2 bar os right now that goes up to 210kpa on fueling only. Timing goes up to 1.2g/s which last I checked it was around 8psi I hit that wall. Then after 1.2g/s I lose the ability to control timing even further. Efi live does have the ability to control it further. I think it’s more a hp tuners shortcoming rather than my computers inability. The computer is obviously capable but hp tuners sadly doesn’t give me that option. I really should find someone with efi live. Have them add it in and although I wouldn’t be able to change it, I could use the iat map to change it somewhat.
my computer, 2004 gto ls1, deals with timing in g/s and not the map sensor. It deals with fueling with the map. I have a 2 bar os right now that goes up to 210kpa on fueling only. Timing goes up to 1.2g/s which last I checked it was around 8psi I hit that wall. Then after 1.2g/s I lose the ability to control timing even further. Efi live does have the ability to control it further. I think it’s more a hp tuners shortcoming rather than my computers inability. The computer is obviously capable but hp tuners sadly doesn’t give me that option. I really should find someone with efi live. Have them add it in and although I wouldn’t be able to change it, I could use the iat map to change it somewhat.
Here is yet a different work around
Last edited by Dragframe; Mar 15, 2020 at 12:45 AM.
I have pe coming in at 80kpa. My afr is good. Just want to add timing from 9psi to 12psi range.
i tried scaling it today but it didn’t quite work right. I’ll have to revisit it. Car just drives do good right now, I really don’t feel like tuning it all over again right now. That’s why the 3 bar map isn’t on the car yet and I haven’t turned it up just yet.
I have pe coming in at 80kpa. My afr is good. Just want to add timing from 9psi to 12psi range.
i tried scaling it today but it didn’t quite work right. I’ll have to revisit it. Car just drives do good right now, I really don’t feel like tuning it all over again right now. That’s why the 3 bar map isn’t on the car yet and I haven’t turned it up just yet.
i tried scaling it today but it didn’t quite work right. I’ll have to revisit it. Car just drives do good right now, I really don’t feel like tuning it all over again right now. That’s why the 3 bar map isn’t on the car yet and I haven’t turned it up just yet.
What I believe they were saying in your thread is you could use to AFR advanced table as a work around. It adjusts the timing according to the commander afr. So you then could trick the pcm to pulling timing by requesting a slightly richer afr at a different boost level, and this table would then adjust your timing accordingly
i been digging through the software for the last two hours and can’t find this afr advance table. But in your thread you said you found it.