Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

How are you testing for Turbo Back Pressure?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 29, 2022 | 06:15 PM
  #1  
Billiumss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,975
Likes: 15
From: Erie, PA
Question How are you testing for Turbo Back Pressure?

Hello,

What's an affordable way to test your turbo back pressure? Are their decent kits on the market? Analog, digital? What are you using?

From my understanding you want a 1:1 ratio, At what point do you have to start worrying about too much back pressure? 2:1?

Could I use my Narrow Band O2 bung as a port to do some quick tests from?

Thanks!
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2022 | 07:16 PM
  #2  
3 window's Avatar
TECH Addict
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 187
Default

Sure you could use the narrow band bung. 1:1 is great while at around 2:1 you’ll see diminishing returns when the boost is turned up. I’ve heard of guys using a cheap peak and hold tire pressure gauge as a super budget route. I use a transducer tapped into the turbine housing right at the flange and monitor it through the ecu. Hope this helps, good luck.
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2022 | 11:46 PM
  #3  
gametech's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,917
Likes: 909
From: Stockbridge GA
Default

Originally Posted by Billiumss
Hello,

What's an affordable way to test your turbo back pressure? Are their decent kits on the market? Analog, digital? What are you using?

From my understanding you want a 1:1 ratio, At what point do you have to start worrying about too much back pressure? 2:1?

Could I use my Narrow Band O2 bung as a port to do some quick tests from?

Thanks!
You only worry about too much backpressure if your power is too low or your exhaust is melting. Less than 1/1 is ideal, but it never has happened on a street legal car, and sometimes not even on race cars. You aim for a certain power or torque goal, then build around it. Backpressure is at the other end of the = sign.
Reply
Old Jan 30, 2022 | 12:27 PM
  #4  
C5_Pete's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 983
Likes: 361
From: Washington TWP, NJ
Default

I’ll preface this with…. I have a race car, not a street car.

It’s nice to measure back pressure and log it. as it gets toward 2:1, you can open the waste gate to relieve the pressure and keep everything in its “happy place”.

As for street car, I’d think just something like upthread with a peak/hold pressure gauge on the dyno (or for a street pull for that matter) to get an idea if your setup is as efficient as it should be.

Good luck
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 09:26 AM
  #5  
Black_Sunshine_99's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,882
Likes: 854
From: Washington
Default

If you're running a 7875 turbo on an LS2 then you're guaranteed to run into excessive back pressure sooner or later.
My 7875 on my LS1 started running out of breath around 6,500 rpm so an LS2 will just get there quicker.
If you can get a reading on the cheap then go for it, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it, you'll see power plateau when it becomes a problem.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 10:06 AM
  #6  
SLOW SEDAN's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 953
From: No VA
Default

The cheap (~$25) sensors that work with Holley for fuel and oil pressure also work for back pressure. Weld a bung to exhaust, run some coiled hardline to insulate it, configure it, away you go.


Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 01:43 PM
  #7  
Black_Sunshine_99's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,882
Likes: 854
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
The cheap (~$25) sensors that work with Holley for fuel and oil pressure also work for back pressure. Weld a bung to exhaust, run some coiled hardline to insulate it, configure it, away you go.
Stupid question, you wouldn't happen to have a picture of what this looks like would you?
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 04:33 PM
  #8  
SLOW SEDAN's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 953
From: No VA
Default

Originally Posted by The ******
Stupid question, you wouldn't happen to have a picture of what this looks like would you?
You can do it like this:



or a bit fancier with a kit like this: Earls PK0001ERL Earls Exhaust Back Pressure Plumbing Kit (holley.com)
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 05:34 PM
  #9  
Black_Sunshine_99's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Community Favorite
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 3,882
Likes: 854
From: Washington
Default

Ah I see, I assumed that's how it went but you know what they say about assumptions lol.
Thank you sir!
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 05:54 PM
  #10  
pdxmotorhead's Avatar
TECH Addict
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2,513
Likes: 480
From: PDX-OR-USA
Default

A map sensor would measure that wouldn't it? I got to thinking U-pullit..
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 07:51 PM
  #11  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
A map sensor would measure that wouldn't it? I got to thinking U-pullit..
The plastic sensor will melt unless you do the cool like SS suggested. Not to mention you'd want a 2 bar sensor. The cheap transducers have a nice easy transfer function too for logging.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 10:02 AM
  #12  
SLOW SEDAN's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 953
From: No VA
Default

100 PSI stainless sensor is only $20 not even worth messing with a POS plastic one.

Amazon Amazon
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 12:35 PM
  #13  
tblentrprz's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 178
Default

Anyone monitoring dome pressure vs exhaust back pressure?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 02:52 PM
  #14  
C5_Pete's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 983
Likes: 361
From: Washington TWP, NJ
Default

Originally Posted by tblentrprz
Anyone monitoring dome pressure vs exhaust back pressure?
absolutely. Gotta have a reference.

Dome pressure
Boost pressure
Back pressure

Log them all and see how efficient (or not) your system is.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 07:04 PM
  #15  
Billiumss's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,975
Likes: 15
From: Erie, PA
Default

Thanks for the insight guys. With the $20 sensor, how could I read the value?

Could I integrate the output signal into my HP Tuners Pro interface?

What the heck is Dome Pressure?

I have the Huron Speed T4 AC Kit. For Turbo, I have the Turbonetics 7575 Billet with a 1.15AR housing.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 07:05 PM
  #16  
wannafbody's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,626
Likes: 1,154
From: Pittsburgh
Default

Hold your hand against the end of the downpipe.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 07:18 PM
  #17  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

HPT pro or EGR pintle position.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:26 PM
  #18  
SLOW SEDAN's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,025
Likes: 953
From: No VA
Default

Originally Posted by Billiumss

What the heck is Dome Pressure?
There isnt any dome pressure on your average 7-8 second street car that only uses the bottom port.


Originally Posted by wannafbody
Hold your hand against the end of the downpipe.
Yess!!
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2022 | 08:36 PM
  #19  
customblackbird's Avatar
TECH Addict
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,273
Likes: 172
Default

I’m getting ready to log back pressure with my new 70/70 turbo. I’m going with the low dollar motorsports $50 100psi transducer which is recommended over the generic $20-35 100psi transducer beloved to have more accurate reading with less noise. Then got a $12 copper tubing mechanical gauge install kit. That’s all you need. I got a 15ft harness and I’m gona pull the oil pressure and connect in on my Holley term x and I will be able to log back pressure with a run and also see how it correlates with boost etc. I could set it up as a input but not worth it as it’s just for testing and then will remove. I’m also gona run boost, pre turbo back pressure and after turbo to see how much I’m seeing in the down pipe and how that relates to the pre turbo pressure. Less than $100 but that’s with the term x ECM. My HP tuners I got the logging external connector where I can add external inputs and it worked for a WB02 I ran when I used HP tuners.
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2022 | 10:38 AM
  #20  
tblentrprz's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,080
Likes: 178
Default

Originally Posted by C5_Pete
absolutely. Gotta have a reference.

Dome pressure
Boost pressure
Back pressure

Log them all and see how efficient (or not) your system is.
How close is dome pressure compared to back pressure?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:07 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE