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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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I'm wanting to add a flex coupler on each side of my y pipe for my twin turbo setup. I remember reading a while back that there are particular ones you should use with turbos. I remember seeing a thread where a cheap coupler collapsed internally and basically stopped up the exhaust.

I've been on Summit's website and have seen several Vibrant's that say not to use with turbos but haven't found any that will.

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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Use bellows like below with turbos if you have to use one, the braided ones suck.

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Use bellows like below with turbos if you have to use one, the braided ones suck.

I've heard these fail frequently too?
I was told double slips are the way to go?
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpe-61006

I found this style after I went to Google.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vpe-61006

I found this style after I went to Google.
I believe those are the kind that HS used on their V2 T6 kits, HS indicated they hadn't had many issues with them if any but now that coupler has been removed from the V3 kit.
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Is it the heat this kills them?

I am wanting to put it about a foot down stream of the turbo. In the y pipe. I don't like how ridge the exhaust is not and honestly it's a PITA for remove/install it after some heat cycles.

I would like just a little bit of flex. The engine isn't going to move that much due to the BMR low mount turbo k member which is basically solid mounts with some small poly bushings.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 03:03 PM
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It's probably a combination of things, heat cycling, exhaust pressure, vibration, torsional/lateral movement.
With the coupler SS provided, when it fails, it cracks and you'll hear it and lose boost maybe.
When the braided ones fail, not sure if that includes the Vibrant ones, they look fine on the outside but will literally close up on the inside choking the engine.
I've seen them on a 2 1/4" pipe shrink down to less than a 1" opening but again, not sure if the Vibrant ones are the same.
It happens over time too, so the engine will start performing less and less until you realize there's a problem or something gets damaged or fails.
Are you talking pre-turbo or post turbo?
I've only seen them fail pre-turbo, never heard of one post turbo.
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I've heard these fail frequently too?
I was told double slips are the way to go?
Thats why I said if you have to use one, I don't use any flex's with a motor plate and a maven mounted turbo, works great. Everything fails eventually, including double slips wear and leak. Double slips are ok on race cars, for a true street car they arent that great.





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Don't know the brand,, but I've seen a bellows style flex joint that was OD inside diameter so you slide it on one side of the joint, put the ends together and slip it over the other half of the joint, It uses T-bolts to clamp down, that way the pipe protects the joint, IIRC it had a insulator layer inside as well They were $$ ,, 75 bucks I htink but they were pretty. Saw them at the Swap meet a couple years ago here in Portland.
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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
Don't know the brand,, but I've seen a bellows style flex joint that was OD inside diameter so you slide it on one side of the joint, put the ends together and slip it over the other half of the joint, It uses T-bolts to clamp down, that way the pipe protects the joint, IIRC it had a insulator layer inside as well They were $$ ,, 75 bucks I htink but they were pretty. Saw them at the Swap meet a couple years ago here in Portland.
The vibrant referenced above you can slide the pipes over internally, you can sorta see that below, as long as you install them in the correct direction they are pretty strong almost like a double slip that doesnt leak. However, I dont use tbolt clamps in exhaust, weld everything.

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Never had to use a flex on any of my street stuff. No issues with cracking, I do usually brace the hotside to the motor.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Never had to use a flex on any of my street stuff. No issues with cracking, I do usually brace the hotside to the motor.
Ya it just depends on the configuration, last few kits I havent used a flex and had no issues.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Never had to use a flex on any of my street stuff. No issues with cracking, I do usually brace the hotside to the motor.
Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Ya it just depends on the configuration, last few kits I havent used a flex and had no issues.
That's what I'm thinking too if the issue ever arises.
The HS V2 T6 kit mounts the turbo to the engine, none of the hot side is mounted to the chassis anywhere so I'm thinking a piece of pipe is the way to go.
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Why?

use a slip joint if you insist
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Thats why I said if you have to use one, I don't use any flex's with a motor plate and a maven mounted turbo, works great. Everything fails eventually, including double slips wear and leak. Double slips are ok on race cars, for a true street car they arent that great.
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
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Perhaps, but even some race car guys are replacing double slips with straight pipe because they failed in competition, here's a recent example: After a day or so discussing... - Rock Solid Motorsports | Facebook
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Originally Posted by Jwooky
Why?

use a slip joint if you insist
The HS V3 T6 doesn't utilize a flex joint at all in that same location compared to the V2 kit so I'm thinking they found the flex pipe was unnecessary.
The entire kit mounts to the engine so there is no need really to accommodate flex in the system from movement, maybe thermal expansion but again HS removed it.
It would be the same amount of work to do a piece of pipe or a slip fit, just don't want to have to mess with it again which ever way I go.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Perhaps, but even some race car guys are replacing double slips with straight pipe because they failed in competition, here's a recent example: After a day or so discussing... - Rock Solid Motorsports | Facebook
So no more slip fits at all, just welded everything up.
Those pipes are long too when compared to the HS T6 kit which makes my concern about the need for thermal expansion seem unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by The ******
So no more slip fits at all, just welded everything up.
Those pipes are long too when compared to the HS T6 kit which makes my concern about the need for thermal expansion seem unnecessary.
Are the HS kits still made of thicker piping? I had one years ago that was closer to schedule 10 thickness than the typical 16g a lot of people use. It also did not have any flex between manifold and turbo.

Also look at the Holley turbo manifolds, lots of guys are using those cast manifolds with a solid crossover without issue. I had a kit like that for awhile that use a stock drivers side manifold and solid crossover worked fine.
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