Please see my short vid clip. Is this just a bad elbow or have I installed on the AN fitting on the hose wrong somehow? The fitting as tight as I can get it with two crescent wrenches on the hose.

This is the included swivel 90degree AN-10 fitting on the end of the Huron Speed included braided hose. I have tried to reinstall twice and it's still leaking, It leaks exactly from inside the swivel joint, to me that means the elbow is bad because if my install was wrong it'd leak OUTSIDE the swivel point, right? It leaks from where the "play" is, about a drop every 10 seconds (a lot).

I have zero experience with AN-10 fittings. The only reason I have these is because they came with the Huron Speed kit

So, do I need a new elbow connector or should I try a third time?


Forgive the music, was a random choice to just fill silence.

Also, the oil looks green because the camera is lighting up my tracer dye strangely from other oil leak I am chasing.

BONUS QUESTION: what brand is this 90degree swivel hose connector? If I get another one I want a different brand.

 

I'd contact Jon at Huron Speed, he may just send a new fitting if you bought the kit new from them.

 

Thanks man... so you think the elbow is bad then I assume. I kinda didn't want the same brand because I have not really abused this at all and it's leaking, can't be good quality. Yea I'll hit up Jon. Never did AN fittings before, don't want to blame the part unfairly but since it's leaking RIGHT from where the play is, it's gotta be a bad part and not my hose insertion/install I assume.

Any other experienced AN folks want to chime in please do.

 

To me it looks like there is a lot of play in that swivel, you could've just gotten a bad one with a missing o-ring or something, I'm sure the manufacture cranks them out and some bad ones are bound to surface.
If you continue to have issues, I'd look at hard line, it won't deform over time and you can run a large diameter to really help with draining.

 

I emailed Jon, we'll see what he says but I think you're right about the unit being bad.

Hard line is a good idea but I don't want to mess with the angles/placement too much because other than the leak it's working out really well for many hundreds of miles now. I don't have any smoke under braking and the line routes basically all downhill the whole way, slightly level in spots, but near perfect routing with this elbow no real slack to play with.

My luck a hard line would be like 1/4" too short or something and I'd need to now buy hose and cut it and reroute it etc etc... I'd like to get a replacement as close to this one's dimensions as possible, but maybe a different brand. FYI to everyone I think this Huron Speed one is very likely an "evil energy" branded one I see on Amazon, the pics are basically identical to mine when I hold mine up to the screen.

 

If you really want to be done with it take your leaking line down to a hydraulics shop and have them crimp fittings onto whatever hose they recommend and move on. Definitely not leaking then. Something like a drain house should be $40 and made while you stand there.

 

Don't know if they are or aren't, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of Evil Energy line and fittings. I'm sure Jon will take care of you. That fitting you showed (wherever it came from), looks like it is defective.

 

HELP!!! So frustrating.

Ok, bringing this thread back. The new Evil Energy 10AN elbow is leaking again exactly like the last one that's shown in the video, in the same place at the joint, and what's worse is now my 90 degree 4an OIL FEED elbow is leaking as well right at the turbo even worse now! This came in the Huron Speed kit if I recall.

"AN FITTING" HOSE PROS, PLEASE CHIME IN. Am I doing something wrong here? Never worked with AN fittings before this turbo. Could my oil be getting too hot and cooking some plastic/rubber/whatever inside the swivel or something?

The leak is at the same point on both, I can't imagine I am doing anything wrong based on the location of the leak but will describe it to make sure. I have a video of the 4an as well that I can upload but it's the same point as the above video shows for the 10an one.

Ok, so for the AN fittings there is the initial "collar" that goes over the braided hose. THEN, you screw in the male portion of the "fitting" into the collar, and that is one solid piece that contains a swivel and then an elbow that then goes to a 4AN female after the 90 degree bend. The joint between the collar and insert does not leak. This is why I don't think it's anything I'm doing wrong. Also, the 4an female side does not leak at that point on the turbo side of the elbow. It's at the swivel "joint" on the "hose insert" that it seems to be leaking. I am tightening these "stronger than snug", hard to describe. The swivels are super loose and easily wiggle where the leak is just like video shows.

I can't be the first and only person having these problems.

I have other tuning and things I'd like to work on but these leaks are bad enough now that they are making the car a fire risk. I've had oil burst into flames on a hot header once, I know it can happen.

Thanks everyone.

 

Sure looks like a swivel leak , why not get non swivel fittings? Should be able clock the 90s correctly and never leak again. Internet stuff or local hydraulic shop should be fine - push lock for example. Drain line pressure is very near zero and doesn't even need to be an , as long as the hose can handle hot oil - I think 1 end of mine is an old 3/4 heater hose type fitting with pipe thread adapted to the timing cover, no leaks in 22000 miles. Doesn't look nice though , none of my **** does lol.

 

Normally you only use a swivel fitting on one end.. But yea that doesn't look right..

Before you slid the collar up and threaded in on was the hose 100% tight against the fitting ??

BTW if your doing aircraft fittings, its worth it to buy a aircraft fitting wrench.. (Yes they are expensive) or at least use a tubing wrench.
I bought a aluminum block set that goes in a vise to hold the fitting when building them.. Makes getting them right easier.
I tape the hose where its going to be cut and use a cut-off wheel through the center of the tape. Makes clean edges.

Good luck!

 

Using a Swivel there if fine. Cheap fittings are a risk. Just replace it with Earls or Aeroquip.
Ive had the Summit fittings break just putting them together. Anything Amazon, scary.

 

Yep, everything felt good and tight. Also, there is no leak between the collar and the insert which is why I *think* I am not doing it wrong, the leak is in the swivel joint which is already past the solid insert/collar connection. I am starting to think that this rash of pisspoor quality parts has infiltrated these AN fitting elbows.

 

Probably great advice. If Earls or Aeroquip will stop these drips I'm in! Searching them up now.

The current one was not an Amazon one, it came with the Huron Speed kit I believe. Might be mistaken on that. Thanks!

EDIT: Just purchased an Aeroquip FCM1031 for the leaking turbo pipe oil feed (4an), didn't readily see an Earl's version of this. If it too leaks I'll post here. Will do the 10AN drain later as it's just dripping oil on the floor, not a red-hot turbo.

Also, taking the advice from a few posts up, pretty sure this one isn't a swivel. The routing of the feed line is not as "sensitive" as the routing of the drain line that needs good downward feed, so I can make a non-swivel work for sure on the feed line. The drain line is so "perfectly fit" and has worked so well I'm hesitant to use any elbow that's not EXACT dimensions, but clearly the Evil Energy 10AN swivel elbow has a leak problem after some time. I believe the first one was Evil Energy (they were IDENTICAL in every way), and both old and new worked originally but leaked over time. Will worry about that 10AN drain one later.

 

I have just used the Aeroquip #10 push on stuff for the drain, since no pressure, works fine. I oil the threads, also a drop of oil behind the flare where the swivel is, you get a little better clamping, less friction.

 

Man good luck, I used Earls for 95% of my fittings.

 

Here's a vid of the 4an elbow off the car for future searchers and whatnot.

Leak is right where the "play" appears. This was from the HuronSpeed Kit if I recall, came on the included hose. I wonder if my hot oil is melting/whatever some grommet in the swivel elbow(s). I have now had 3 bad ones, two 10AN and this 4AN swivel. My advice to those doing new builds: try to avoid swivel elbows.