STS Turbo???
STS Turbo??? sorry if this ? has been asked b4...did a search and didnt find anything.is there any lag w/ this remote rear-mount set-up? iwas talking to this old-timer and he said that since its mounted so far from the intake ill have probs w/turbo-lag.also what all do i have to do,to go w/this kind of set-up? TIA.(im a turbo newb,obviously,lol.)
Originally Posted by '02SS
sorry if this ? has been asked b4...did a search and didnt find anything.is there any lag w/ this remote rear-mount set-up? iwas talking to this old-timer and he said that since its mounted so far from the intake ill have probs w/turbo-lag.also what all do i have to do,to go w/this kind of set-up? TIA.(im a turbo newb,obviously,lol.)
Originally Posted by Silver02
STS has applied for a CARB # which will allow you to pass smog. I'm interested in getting one but since I also live in California, the visual inspection could be a problem without the CARB #.
very good point.i just got busted for a gang of s#$t that i had illegal on my car,in Oakland...****** smog-****'s.
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You did a search and didn't find any info on lag??? Damn, must be too many posts about the single tail pipe thing cloggin up the system... LMAO!
To put it simply. With a base kit (the 60-1 turbo) there will be almost zero lag. With the upgraded turbo there will be a little lag when the motor and turbo or cold but once warmed up the lag is very minor and actually helps control the massive wheelspin you're going to get when the thing spools up. The guys I know with the GT67s on F-bodies rave about them and they say the lag is not even an issue.
Now, go too big and upgrade twice like I did on my truck and lag becomes and issue. From a 30+mph roll I can barely feel any lag but anything below that and I get a ton of lag! I knew this when I upgraded my turbo the 2nd time but I was sizing it for great top end and to match my new 6.0L motor when it goes in.
Even with my lag I can still drag race the setup with great results due to my 3000stall converter. I would cry if I had to run this big turbo on a stock stall.
Here's my truck attempting to launch on 8psi with the front end at stock height (I lower it now for racing).
http://fatalfoo.com/Movies/F8L%20Z71...%204Runner.wmv
To put it simply. With a base kit (the 60-1 turbo) there will be almost zero lag. With the upgraded turbo there will be a little lag when the motor and turbo or cold but once warmed up the lag is very minor and actually helps control the massive wheelspin you're going to get when the thing spools up. The guys I know with the GT67s on F-bodies rave about them and they say the lag is not even an issue.
Now, go too big and upgrade twice like I did on my truck and lag becomes and issue. From a 30+mph roll I can barely feel any lag but anything below that and I get a ton of lag! I knew this when I upgraded my turbo the 2nd time but I was sizing it for great top end and to match my new 6.0L motor when it goes in.
Even with my lag I can still drag race the setup with great results due to my 3000stall converter. I would cry if I had to run this big turbo on a stock stall.
Here's my truck attempting to launch on 8psi with the front end at stock height (I lower it now for racing).
http://fatalfoo.com/Movies/F8L%20Z71...%204Runner.wmv
thanks bro i appreciate it.what i meant was no posts on the sts system.i dont plan on upgrading it.just getting the setup that was in Camaro Performers last month.anything i need to do other than buy the kit.perhaps a controller or anything?
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Sinced you're in the South Bay you need to call up Rick at Synergy Motorsports in Fremont. He is the Norcal STS dealer and knows the ins and outs of the kit. He installed and tuned my truck for me. I don't know enough about turbos to tackle it myself. 
A base kit with the upgrade, injectors and a tune pus install will probably run you in the $4.5k range or something like that. Rick has a few packages setup from easy and cheap to wild but keep in mind one thing. Even the base kit he recomends is the lowest i would go. To me it is too risky to install any forced induction kit that raises power levels to over 400rwhp and almost 500rwtq and not do injectors and a fuel pump. That's just my opinion though. Some people may say otherwise but usually they are just trying to sell you something cheap so you bite. Then when you blow up later they can play ignorant.
A base kit with the upgrade, injectors and a tune pus install will probably run you in the $4.5k range or something like that. Rick has a few packages setup from easy and cheap to wild but keep in mind one thing. Even the base kit he recomends is the lowest i would go. To me it is too risky to install any forced induction kit that raises power levels to over 400rwhp and almost 500rwtq and not do injectors and a fuel pump. That's just my opinion though. Some people may say otherwise but usually they are just trying to sell you something cheap so you bite. Then when you blow up later they can play ignorant.
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Originally Posted by '02SS
thanks F8L ill call him monday.i appreciate all the help.
He may still be at SEMA on Monday. If you need to I can get a hold of him and you can just call me on monday evening if you need prices right away.
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stall or NOS wouldnt a stall help with the turbo lag issue? or even a lil shot of nos out the hole hooked up to a hob switch that turns off the nos at a set boost. I think that would be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by bumpin_records
wouldnt a stall help with the turbo lag issue? or even a lil shot of nos out the hole hooked up to a hob switch that turns off the nos at a set boost. I think that would be a good idea.
I know why I get lag and even my 3000stall can't fix it. I am simply under cubed for this turbo. Something I had planned on and will remedy when this poor motor gives up the ghost. 6.0L here I come
For instance, I have a slightly bigger GT67 than F8L does and don't notice any lag, even with the stock converter.Something to consider on the TC issue: there are 'turbo stators' to be had (if you ask for one) that will help the spooling. I know PI does this on request and am sure most other companies would as well.