Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Wideband sensor location for F/I

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:15 PM
  #1  
Boostaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Default Wideband sensor location for F/I

Where should I be mounting my WBo2 sensor? Before or after turbo?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:36 PM
  #2  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

We run ours before the turbo. You can run them after though as well.

Jose
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:43 PM
  #3  
Boostaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Default

I just got this private message

Always mount the O2 After the turbo if your looking to read air fuel ratio. If you put it before the turbo the exhaust back pressure will raise the egt temps and give a false reading. If your looking to install O2's for the stock computer you can put one in the crossover and the other three in the downpipe. If you using ls1 edit for tuning install one before and one after and shut the rears ones off.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 09:47 PM
  #4  
427's Avatar
427
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,898
Likes: 6
From: Clayton, North Carolina
Default

Backpressure will effect your readings. The best place is after turbo for wideband 02.

Kurt
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:03 PM
  #5  
Boostaholic's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Default

Originally Posted by 427
Backpressure will effect your readings. The best place is after turbo for wideband 02.

Kurt

Thanks Kurt!!
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:57 PM
  #6  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

We have run 2 widebands in both locations on the same car at the same time, and readings were the same. I thought running it after the turbo would also be the best thing to do, but that was not the case. Now if the turbo system sucks, then yeah you may get exagerated EGT's which would skew readings, but for most setups before or after doesn't matter.


Jose
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 05:21 AM
  #7  
smokinHawk's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,354
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, ohio
Default

thats strange i have always heard mount your narrowband o2s right after the manafolds before the turbo, and put the wideband ofter the turbo.

anyone now how far away you should place the wideband after the turbo, i cant remember.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 06:14 AM
  #8  
Arkangel77's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 661
Likes: 0
From: La.
Default

On my AEM gauge is tells you to mount it after the TURBO. ? Lata, Ark
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:32 AM
  #9  
427's Avatar
427
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,898
Likes: 6
From: Clayton, North Carolina
Default

Jose,
I have never tried to run in front of turbo. It seemed that it would work until we talked to Bosch about sensor location. It seems that backpressure causes there sensors readings to vary. After checking with a few other manufactures we came to the conclusion that after the turbo was the right spot.


Kurt
Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
We have run 2 widebands in both locations on the same car at the same time, and readings were the same. I thought running it after the turbo would also be the best thing to do, but that was not the case. Now if the turbo system sucks, then yeah you may get exagerated EGT's which would skew readings, but for most setups before or after doesn't matter.


Jose
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:27 AM
  #10  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

Kurt, to me I also agree to put it after the turbo. More then likely with time the excessive heat may get to the sensor when mounting it before. I do tune my GN with it before the turbo though, but only cause I don't have provisions for it after the turbo. Even though we did and have run them in both locations without a problem, I get a warmer fuzzy feeling if its mounted after the turbo .
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:38 AM
  #11  
Armageddon's Avatar
...with cheese.
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,856
Likes: 4
From: AL
Default

Fat downpipe Director... thats awesome haha
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:39 AM
  #12  
Tiago's Avatar
9 Second Club
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,685
Likes: 0
From: HOUSTON-TX
Default

the heat also decreases the WBO2 lifetime..

I mounted mine right at 12 o clock 6 inches from the turbo on the DP.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:31 AM
  #13  
NXRICKY's Avatar
Closed ex-Sponsor Account
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,797
Likes: 0
From: Wichita Falls, TX
Default

Always mount the O2 After the turbo if your looking to read air fuel ratio. If you put it before the turbo the exhaust back pressure will raise the egt temps and give a false reading. If your looking to install O2's for the stock computer you can put one in the crossover and the other three in the downpipe. If you using ls1 edit for tuning install one before and one after and shut the rears ones off.

Is this correct? What about no cats? Do you have to turn them off or use o2 sims or just put them in?

I did find out from FJO that wideband o2s are pressure sincesitive. And they recommend putting them in the down pipe. Also without a cat they recommend anywere in the pipe but at lease 18 inches from being in free air.
Ricky
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:40 AM
  #14  
smokinHawk's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,354
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, ohio
Default

so is 6" from the turbo the general placement?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:43 AM
  #15  
Armageddon's Avatar
...with cheese.
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,856
Likes: 4
From: AL
Default

sounds about right.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2005 | 01:02 PM
  #16  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

Yes about 6-12 inches from the turbo.

Jose
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE