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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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I'll be buying my rods and pistons in the next week. I'm just going to have the block bored to clean it up and install new lower compression piston. What are in your opinion is the best compression? My goal is now going to be 600-650 RWHP, wherever I run out of fuel that's where we will stop with the power search. I plan on getting Mahle 9.5-1 .010 over pistons right now and forged eagle, oliver, ??? rods. I will buy the least expensive rods for the job that won't be questionable. Anyone have any thoughts. I will also be buying LPE's turbo/supercharger cam (LPE LS1 Camshafts 350-383-427, 208/230 .554/.546 w/1.7 rocker 121CL) for this combo. Is this the best compression and does anyone suggest a set of rods that would be reasonable for this job, $500 or under?
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BTW, is this how everyone got their engine out? I fabricated a dolly for the k-member and used a tranny jack.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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I can't believe one of you don't have an opinion. Come on, help me please.
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i would love to give you feedback, however i dont know enough about it. only thing i can think of, is with the cam from lpe, its either a supercharger cam or turbo cam. i think usually a supercharger cam is a reverse split, and turbo cam is normal split pattern. so depending on what kind of FI you go, that will help you decide which cam to get.

also, is your goal 600-650 rwhp on pump gas, meth, race fuel, or what? also, will this be daily driver, or just for the track? i would say, if you dont really plan on making too much more power then that, prob go with higher compression, anywhere from 8.5-9.0, and less timing.

1. you wont need as much psi to get there

2. if its a daily driver, you will have easier time to get moving in traffic, etc.

3.little bit better gas milage, but im sure thats prob not your concern.

just depends on what else your lookin to do, thats my input until someone else wants to chime in.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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You honestly would probably be better off running a half point to full point lower in compression and run more boost. You'd be able to make more power and if you run the 9:1 slugs...you probably won't sacrifice much low end TQ or spool ability. Just my $.02.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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At 600rwhp+ definitely go 9:1 on the C/R.
Wish I would have.
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
i would love to give you feedback, however i dont know enough about it. only thing i can think of, is with the cam from lpe, its either a supercharger cam or turbo cam. i think usually a supercharger cam is a reverse split, and turbo cam is normal split pattern. so depending on what kind of FI you go, that will help you decide which cam to get.

also, is your goal 600-650 rwhp on pump gas, meth, race fuel, or what? also, will this be daily driver, or just for the track? i would say, if you dont really plan on making too much more power then that, prob go with higher compression, anywhere from 8.5-9.0, and less timing.

1. you wont need as much psi to get there

2. if its a daily driver, you will have easier time to get moving in traffic, etc.

3.little bit better gas milage, but im sure thats prob not your concern.

just depends on what else your lookin to do, thats my input until someone else wants to chime in.
Actually this will be an occasional driver (just when it's nice) and I was picking the cam because I have spoken with Jason closely about this build up and it's the cam he recommended. The compression however is something that I am making the decision on because I want to keep it semi fuel efficient because I have no intention of it just being a race car or anything like that. It's going to be a pump gas only car, never will I pay $4.00 or more for race gas unless regular fuel gets to be that much. Hopefully we will have the chioce to use ethanol by that point. I appreciate your feedback.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MelloYellow
At 600rwhp+ definitely go 9:1 on the C/R.
Wish I would have.
I was thinking if I ever wanted to drop the CR any more than 9.5-1 I would put the LS6 heads on with the bigger chambers. Have any thoughts on the rods? I will most likely be doing the assembly myself like usual and I wanted to know which rods to buy also.
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Old Apr 3, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfee
It's going to be a pump gas only car, never will I pay $4.00 or more for race gas unless regular fuel gets to be that much. Hopefully we will have the chioce to use ethanol by that point.

No ****, god I hope so too. Most of you know that I've been looking for my first toy/project car and this really REALLY has me scared. Not much you can do about it but though . I hope to HELL we can run ethanol in the next few years. That leads to another thread, guess I'll start that one but in which forum?
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Originally Posted by Wolfee
I was thinking if I ever wanted to drop the CR any more than 9.5-1 I would put the LS6 heads on with the bigger chambers. Have any thoughts on the rods? I will most likely be doing the assembly myself like usual and I wanted to know which rods to buy also.
Wolfee

Obviously go with the longest rod you can to make it work. Let me know cause I have future plans of doing what you're doing, though maybe on an LS2 platform and maybe not @ a 4" storke. I've been rethinking that
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
No ****, god I hope so too. Most of you know that I've been looking for my first toy/project car and this really REALLY has me scared. Not much you can do about it but though . I hope to HELL we can run ethanol in the next few years. That leads to another thread, guess I'll start that one but in which forum?

Thread started, in the LS1/6 section, but it might get moved.
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