Phamspeed GT42 Kit PROBLEM(S)..JOHN@PHAMSPEED HELP
04-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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Phamspeed GT42 Kit PROBLEM(S)..JOHN@PHAMSPEED HELP Well ****, got the turbo mounted today with the help of my buddy Frank(sscam68) Ran into a few snags which are pretty major...
Ground Clearance off the downpipe is rediculous...My car is the stock ride height and this thing won't clear from the looks of it. Need help on this fast.
Other angles of the DP...its as close as I want it to the steering rack and lines...any closer and it'll be rubbing. It has about 1 finger width of clearance and it won't line up with anything....if it were longer it'd be hitting the oil filter??
Is my DP made wrong? I can't see this fitting any other way than the way we have it installed.
ALSO....the oil drain comes out and runs into the cross over pipe I can route the hose under it but then it would have to tap into the oil pan at or near the oil level... Things aren't lining up right. John@phamspeed do you have ANY DECENT CLEAR PICS of the GT42 kit mounted up on anyones car?? I'd like to have the DP pics and how you routed the oil drain line from the bottom of the GT42 to the oil pan.
Thanks,
J
Ground Clearance off the downpipe is rediculous...My car is the stock ride height and this thing won't clear from the looks of it. Need help on this fast.
Other angles of the DP...its as close as I want it to the steering rack and lines...any closer and it'll be rubbing. It has about 1 finger width of clearance and it won't line up with anything....if it were longer it'd be hitting the oil filter??
Is my DP made wrong? I can't see this fitting any other way than the way we have it installed.
ALSO....the oil drain comes out and runs into the cross over pipe I can route the hose under it but then it would have to tap into the oil pan at or near the oil level... Things aren't lining up right. John@phamspeed do you have ANY DECENT CLEAR PICS of the GT42 kit mounted up on anyones car?? I'd like to have the DP pics and how you routed the oil drain line from the bottom of the GT42 to the oil pan.
Thanks,
J
04-09-2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MECHAM
what is the size of that DP? 3" 3.5" 4"
since the front are up on ramps...and the back is not..wont things settle better when the front is on the groud?
since the front are up on ramps...and the back is not..wont things settle better when the front is on the groud?
04-09-2005, 05:01 PM
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It looks properly installed. The pictures he posted up a while back show that really tight clearance to the steering shaft boot. There really needs to be some kind of shield there.
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04-09-2005, 05:30 PM
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Hi Geoff, yeah I remember the pics, but can't find em no more. It'd really help out right now. Another day down the tubes.
Here's more pics of the car on the ground sorry it took me a few minutes. My neighbor wanted to know what in the hell I was doing on the side of the house already
I have about 2.5 to 3.0 clearance there...
about 3.5 on the passenger side.
Man I need to see some pics of the GT42 kit on another car.
J
Here's more pics of the car on the ground sorry it took me a few minutes. My neighbor wanted to know what in the hell I was doing on the side of the house already
I have about 2.5 to 3.0 clearance there...
about 3.5 on the passenger side.
Man I need to see some pics of the GT42 kit on another car.
J
04-09-2005, 05:36 PM
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That just doesnt look safe. One good dip in the road, chunk of asphalt, or a rigor mortis carcuss will kill that pipe and possibly push it into taking out other things. 
04-09-2005, 05:47 PM
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The probably don't have a mandrel bender at their shop yet and I can understand why those things are expensive and these guys are just starting out. I'm not bashing em at all. Please don't think that I am. I'm quite please so far with the kit. I've not run into many parts for our cars that did require some modding to work right.
I can mod the DP on my own, as its really in my capabilities to do so, but if I got a messed up pipe then I want another one ASAP. This one points right at my oil filter so that can't be right. The DP should also run flatly under the steering rack and not at an angle. This would have maximized ground clearance. Down pipe should be coming out of the turbo at a 90 deg angle from what we can see.
I can mod the DP on my own, as its really in my capabilities to do so, but if I got a messed up pipe then I want another one ASAP. This one points right at my oil filter so that can't be right. The DP should also run flatly under the steering rack and not at an angle. This would have maximized ground clearance. Down pipe should be coming out of the turbo at a 90 deg angle from what we can see.
04-09-2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BrandonSS
And why so many cuts/welds in this pipe? That looks like it could have easily been a solid pipe with mandrel bends.
There are a few areas that could be improved to make building these kits more efficient for them. I am a design engineer for a small company that builds exhaust systems for diesel trucks to meet emissions, so I see/design stuff like this on a daily basis.
Thier welds are pretty good IMO. The guys at my shop are awesome at TIG and MIG welding and Phamspeeds are comparable.
Jer, my offer stands. If you need any fab work let me know. I'll start pricing out the bends and couplers that you need
04-09-2005, 06:15 PM
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Cool Frank and thanks A TON for your help today. Good to have an engineer on hand to figure out how to get the exhaust housing bolted up in a easy manner.
Yep see if you can get some 5 inch MS tubing or even aluminum and a 5inch coupler or 4.0 to 5.0 coupler if you can find one.
J
Yep see if you can get some 5 inch MS tubing or even aluminum and a 5inch coupler or 4.0 to 5.0 coupler if you can find one.
J
04-09-2005, 06:54 PM
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I know there was one car before me tho....they had the pics of that one up on their site for a while. I'm pretty sure it was a GT42 car?? But other than that one I am the only other GT42 car. Hellraiser has a GT42 too, but he isn't putting his on for awhile.
J
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04-09-2005, 07:12 PM
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Helps a ton, just by looking at that, I can see that mine is missing a 45 deg bend at the end of it. Its the part of with the two O2 bungs side by side...mine isn't there and this causes mine to point directly to the oil filter...I can fix that here. Mine also looks to have one section missing right in the middle of the DP. Yours has a slight bend to it(really small section of a 45 deg), mine doesn't its straight which causes a lot of clearance problems. Your DP is a lot different than mine WTF??
YOURS
MINE
You can see where mine is missing the section in the middle of the DP, that would help it curve around the steering rack...and you can see where mine is missing the 45 deg bend at the end to help avoid the oil filter....WTF??
I want one like yours, I bet it'll fit a ton better than the DP I have. Guess I got the friday night special huh?? That and I paid in full CASH(cashiers check but cash none the less) and had it the money sent 2 day USPS priority immediately after I ordered it. Told em, I want a LS1 GT42 kit, next day the money was on the way.
Guess thats what I get, header too far toward the passenger side fenderwell, had to cut my K member so it'll fit, cut my tranny lines to mount the turbo, and a DP that'll scrape when my 220lb's is in the car and goes over the slightest bump.
Not Good.
YOURS
MINE
You can see where mine is missing the section in the middle of the DP, that would help it curve around the steering rack...and you can see where mine is missing the 45 deg bend at the end to help avoid the oil filter....WTF??
I want one like yours, I bet it'll fit a ton better than the DP I have. Guess I got the friday night special huh?? That and I paid in full CASH(cashiers check but cash none the less) and had it the money sent 2 day USPS priority immediately after I ordered it. Told em, I want a LS1 GT42 kit, next day the money was on the way.
Guess thats what I get, header too far toward the passenger side fenderwell, had to cut my K member so it'll fit, cut my tranny lines to mount the turbo, and a DP that'll scrape when my 220lb's is in the car and goes over the slightest bump.
Not Good.
