Track gains for STS and Dyno.Times for Phamspeed???
05-12-2005, 04:42 AM
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Track gains for STS and Dyno.Times for Phamspeed??? Have searched quite a bit and seen two that I recall for STS, Angie and the GTO Video, seen a lot of Dyno #'s though. Also, seems there is a lack of Phamspeed representation for Dyno / Track also.
*this is not meant to rehash the dyno means **** arguement, or anything, just want to see how these kits are doing*
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Charlie
*this is not meant to rehash the dyno means **** arguement, or anything, just want to see how these kits are doing*
Thanks,
Charlie
05-12-2005, 09:36 AM
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you've got to remember that this company is new so only about 8 or so either have or have ordered their kits,i dont think anyones totally finished the install yet,hell i havent even started mine.i believe frcefed98 is the closest to being done.give it a few months...and im sure by august there will be more finished,thats my goal,to be totally done by august if not sooner.
05-12-2005, 11:55 AM
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From a design standpoint the phamspeed budget kit should support higher HP And much faster spooling. (Both due to the location of the turbo and also the AR on the STS being sized to spool at the rear of the car)
STS allows you to keep stock fans. The phamspeed will run into problems with a pusher setup if the AC condensor is in place. (Been there, done that with my old powerdyne setup)
With dual SPALS (2400cfm) and no AC condensor the phamspeed should be the superior kit. (gravity drain to pan, no scavenge pumps etc)
just my opinion of course
STS allows you to keep stock fans. The phamspeed will run into problems with a pusher setup if the AC condensor is in place. (Been there, done that with my old powerdyne setup)
With dual SPALS (2400cfm) and no AC condensor the phamspeed should be the superior kit. (gravity drain to pan, no scavenge pumps etc)
just my opinion of course
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05-12-2005, 12:02 PM
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From a design standpoint the phamspeed budget kit should support higher HP And much faster spooling. (Both due to the location of the turbo and also the AR on the STS being sized to spool at the rear of the car)
STS allows you to keep stock fans. The phamspeed will run into problems with a pusher setup if the AC condensor is in place. (Been there, done that with my old powerdyne setup)
With dual SPALS (2400cfm) and no AC condensor the phamspeed should be the superior kit. (gravity drain to pan, no scavenge pumps etc)
just my opinion of course
STS allows you to keep stock fans. The phamspeed will run into problems with a pusher setup if the AC condensor is in place. (Been there, done that with my old powerdyne setup)
With dual SPALS (2400cfm) and no AC condensor the phamspeed should be the superior kit. (gravity drain to pan, no scavenge pumps etc)
just my opinion of course
Well put, agreed
05-12-2005, 12:13 PM
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I did a 12.0 with my STS BUT thanks to a BAD tune it was comming apart as it went down the track! AS soon as I can get her rebuilt and retuned I will have times for sure - Its gona be a while for me though? Lata, Ark
05-12-2005, 12:55 PM
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PurEvil...I understand your now going with the Phamspeed setup, is it the budget, standard, twin if you dont mind? APE BS, yep..got it, luckily my engine should be delivered to my door within the next 3 hours from Mr FedEx.
Wiaiting to see the result of DZM (?sp)and Phamspeed, how it effects prices, lead time etc. Until then will be looking for good deals on Fans, Injectors, some -8 or -10 line for fuel line upgrade, and all the other ancillary items.
Charlie
Wiaiting to see the result of DZM (?sp)and Phamspeed, how it effects prices, lead time etc. Until then will be looking for good deals on Fans, Injectors, some -8 or -10 line for fuel line upgrade, and all the other ancillary items.
Charlie
05-12-2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
chrispy you dont need to move the AC stuff,just get a dual 12" Fal fan and drop it in and your good to go.
hehe just wait and see
If you live in a hot climate you are going to have real problems...
The only option with AC in the car is to seal the condensor to the rad either with a custom shroud or duct tape (black looks best) all around.
05-12-2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
chrispy you dont need to move the AC stuff,just get a dual 12" Fal fan and drop it in and your good to go.
Cat3 i got youre good deal for injectors right here,lol,shot you a pm
Cat3 i got youre good deal for injectors right here,lol,shot you a pm
Got it, pretty good deal. It will probably be a month or so, hopefully wont change much. I still have to finish convincing myself which route to go. I just had my engine delivered to the house, but its right now setup for full out nitrous assault 12.1:1 Cr, and the cam was ground for the application etc... Looking for a new set of Diamond forged turbo app fully coated pistons, and turbo cam (think I am going to contact EDC again for this one also).
The fans issue is the next concern. I take it there is no more room to slide the radiator and condensor forward, maybe angle and maintain puller fans/stock fans?
05-12-2005, 03:56 PM
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im telling you with the budget kit all you have to do is get FAL dual pusher fans and they drop right in, ask "Armageddon" hes done it.
Kyle
05-12-2005, 04:04 PM
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turn on the AC on a 90+ degree day and get into bumper to bumper traffic.
car will overheat. guaranteed.
like Chrispy I am another one of those guys who lived it already
car will overheat. guaranteed.
like Chrispy I am another one of those guys who lived it already
05-12-2005, 04:14 PM
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Will Pham still be offering the standard kit, or just the budget kit?
I can handle the injectors, IC Piping and will keep a look out for the fans issues (BTW, ATI has issues like this as well).
M) What I would like to know, does the budget/standard kit hook back into the stock/cat back I-pipe, or will I have to take it to an exhaust shop/fabricate more piping?
N) Is there any issue using a PA Racing K Member and A Arms? Usually you'd swap to a tubular K to avoid fitment issues, but want to make my new PA Racing K wont be an issue.
Thanks\
Charlie
I can handle the injectors, IC Piping and will keep a look out for the fans issues (BTW, ATI has issues like this as well).
M) What I would like to know, does the budget/standard kit hook back into the stock/cat back I-pipe, or will I have to take it to an exhaust shop/fabricate more piping?
N) Is there any issue using a PA Racing K Member and A Arms? Usually you'd swap to a tubular K to avoid fitment issues, but want to make my new PA Racing K wont be an issue.
Thanks\
Charlie