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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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I am looking at getting a set of heads for my engine and would like to know who is using Afr or Allpro heads. Which is better and why?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I believe Kurt at W2W is gonna be comparing these 2 heads real shortly
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Old May 23, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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I know of two big names on here that are using AllPros

That seems to be what W2W is reccomending, so Id personally go with them.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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I'm going All-Pro on my next motor, regardless of whether it's an LS1 or LT1. Their 23* stuff is some of the best out there.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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I know Kurt at W2W made 1600HP using AFR's..... and he will be testing the ALL PRO's here soon and comparing.........
They both run abpout the same price.......
I havent decided on what ones ill be going with yet......
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Good question, one that I am asking right now myself.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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I am leaning towards the AFR because they are cnc'd on the intake and exhaust ports and the Allpro's are not (for the same price). The AFR's also flow 20 cfm more on the intake and the exhaust.
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i hope i can take some pics of my allpro's from w2w tomorrow (shipping)
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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i hope i can take some pics of my allpro's from w2w tomorrow (shipping)

Coo post up when ya get them...
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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I have a Set of All Pro's on the Way myself
They are going on my new 402 iron turbo motor
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1997 vet
I am leaning towards the AFR because they are cnc'd on the intake and exhaust ports and the Allpro's are not (for the same price). The AFR's also flow 20 cfm more on the intake and the exhaust.
Well that makes me feel better. I have a set of AFR 225s but if they flow better why are all the big power cars going with the Allpro heads?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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MM and GMC SKI why did you go with the Allpro heads?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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Well that makes me feel better. I have a set of AFR 225s but if they flow better why are all the big power cars going with the Allpro heads?
Lots more options with the All Pros. Big deciding factor would be the large spring pads (up to 1.625"), and interchangeable guides. You can get pretty much any size guide you want for them. ie: 7mm, 8mm, or 5/16.

Raised rocker rails for more clearance.
You can get a longer intake surface for decking the crap outta them(<==good for the N/A guys )

I don't have the flow numbers handy, but unported they were close to that of the AFR 205's.

This Head fits what I want to do.

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Thats good info Brad. I guess for what I`m doing the AFRs will work very good for me , should be good enough for me to outrun John at BG .
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I looked a lot at the All Pro's.
IMO the AFR is a better head out of the box.
If you have 3,500 dollars to spend the All Pro's can be a FANTASTIC Head.
The stock casting isn't the best though.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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The All Pro's have more designed in features than the AFR's. Particular on the top side of the head where AFR spent the least amount of time engineering theirs. The AFR is a slightly glorified LS6 style top side. The All Pro heads have a thicker top side deck, with a solid deck for the rocker pedestals. The top side also has an increased height to allow for larger spring seats to get cut in without punching into the runners. The clamping areas of the head are reinforced further to help get some more mass in those areas.

The coolant jackets are smaller as well. This tightens up the area above the spark plug holes where the head likes to lift the soonest, especially when boosted. And like Brad indicated, they can be configured to order with more options. This makes some of the part selection for those heads very nice.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997 vet
I am looking at getting a set of heads for my engine and would like to know who is using Afr or Allpro heads. Which is better and why?
the question no one has asked yet. what are you going to do with your car?
if your building a street car, stock short block,+ bolt ons
no question about it. the afr's

if your going racing, big cubes, high rpm, roll cage, ect.
allpro's are a more logical choice.

if your going to end up between the 2 extremes. pick the one that best fits your combo. maybe afr225's

hope this helps
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Old May 25, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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I am an AFR dealer, so my opinion might be baised. However I think you couldn't go wrong with either head, but for a forced induction application you really can't beat the 3/4" trademark deck surface
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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I am building a 408 for my twin turbo vet. I would like to be around 800-900rwhp. I think that either of the heads will meet my needs. Both the AFR and the Allpro have the 3/4" deck. But I would like to spend my money for the better of the two for my application. I think that the Allpro might be a little stronger casting but the AFR flows better for the money. Would it be worth giving up 20 cfm for the options of the Allpro?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JnJSpdShop
I am an AFR dealer, so my opinion might be baised. However I think you couldn't go wrong with either head, but for a forced induction application you really can't beat the 3/4" trademark deck surface
i believe the all pros have that 3/4" deck as well.
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