Incon wishlist....Previous owners come in
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From: Albuquerque NM - The Land of 8000ft DA
Incon wishlist....Previous owners come in What tweaks or improvments do you feel that the incon kit needs?
Better turbos?
Larger capacity intercoolers?
etc.
Post up your thoughts...
Better turbos?
Larger capacity intercoolers?
etc.
Post up your thoughts...
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Its a real nice kit for maybe a max of 650 rwhp. But, beyond that, things go up in price considerably platformwise, even if the turbos were up to it. You start needing serious fuel systems, serious injectors/engine management, serious powertrain mods, etc., and then you're in a different price range. You can get by with a lot of standard upgrades until then.
There are only two things that I would and will change after my engine rebuild. 1. A better FPR. (theirs was a little spotty) 2. A BOV. (there was none, and for 5 psi, it could slide, but not for double that)
The scavenge pump does not bother me. If it did, I would plunk down the $400 for a better one. The intercoolers I believe are more than up to the task, especially if you cut access windows for air to flow where the fog lights were. I believe the charge pipes are more than up for it.
It is the best street FI kit for these cars, and more important for me, it looks to last a long time.
There are only two things that I would and will change after my engine rebuild. 1. A better FPR. (theirs was a little spotty) 2. A BOV. (there was none, and for 5 psi, it could slide, but not for double that)
The scavenge pump does not bother me. If it did, I would plunk down the $400 for a better one. The intercoolers I believe are more than up to the task, especially if you cut access windows for air to flow where the fog lights were. I believe the charge pipes are more than up for it.
It is the best street FI kit for these cars, and more important for me, it looks to last a long time.
There are a couple of things that I would change with the Incon kit:
- Large front mount intercooler instead of the two smaller cores in the wheel wells. It would simply get a lot more flow if it were located in the nose of the car. This would also result in only a single charge pipe to the TB and get rid of the '***-pipe' which I never really liked.
- I would go with more readily available turbo options then the GT series stuff and a t3 exhaust instead of the t28 that the Incon setup used.
- I'd like to see the turbos moved up a bit more so that the scavenge pump system is not necessary...if this isn't possible then I would like to see a crank driven pump and not an electric unit.
- Some hard-piping where the Incon hoses tend to get pinched or rub.
Other then those things I think that the Incon kit was right on the money for a street kit that offered great performance and the ability to keep A/c and P/S. There is a reason that a ton of people (myself included) think that the Incon setup was/is the best street kit that has been offered for the f-body.
- Large front mount intercooler instead of the two smaller cores in the wheel wells. It would simply get a lot more flow if it were located in the nose of the car. This would also result in only a single charge pipe to the TB and get rid of the '***-pipe' which I never really liked.
- I would go with more readily available turbo options then the GT series stuff and a t3 exhaust instead of the t28 that the Incon setup used.
- I'd like to see the turbos moved up a bit more so that the scavenge pump system is not necessary...if this isn't possible then I would like to see a crank driven pump and not an electric unit.
- Some hard-piping where the Incon hoses tend to get pinched or rub.
Other then those things I think that the Incon kit was right on the money for a street kit that offered great performance and the ability to keep A/c and P/S. There is a reason that a ton of people (myself included) think that the Incon setup was/is the best street kit that has been offered for the f-body.
Originally Posted by Mark C
There are only two things that I would and will change after my engine rebuild. 1. A better FPR. (theirs was a little spotty) 2. A BOV. (there was none, and for 5 psi, it could slide, but not for double that)
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Phate, I was actually assuming different turbos would be used, but I should not have. Some cheaper ones would definately keep the cost down. You really don't need the ones they went with. Actually, I have no idea why he chose $2,000+ in turbos with a $4,500 kit. With the fancy ball bearing units I go into boost before 1,800 rpm, and get 9 psi by 2,400. These are 6th gear readings starting at 1,500. Very good stuff. It drives very much like an N/A car, and very unlike my Talon.
I really would keep the rubber charge pipes. Have you ever seen how tough they are. Like radiator hoses with cord sandwiched between rubber. Its good to have some things give a little bit.
I really would keep the rubber charge pipes. Have you ever seen how tough they are. Like radiator hoses with cord sandwiched between rubber. Its good to have some things give a little bit.
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From: Wallingford, CT
Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Hmm need to get some C5 manifolds as well. No reason to pay 15K for a turbo setup using cast iron manifolds...lol
I think there is a great market with in the F-body, I do not know production numbers, but I would assume more F-bods than vettes. I may however be wrong.
But the type of person that buys a Fbody is more willing to mod (usually) than the type of person that buys a vette (again usally)
But the type of person that buys a Fbody is more willing to mod (usually) than the type of person that buys a vette (again usally)
I think the biggest drawback was the scavenge system. If I would have kept my kit, I would have dropped the cash and got the setup from Lingenfelter - belt driven pump in place of the alternator.
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-Geoff
Originally Posted by Mark C
I really would keep the rubber charge pipes. Have you ever seen how tough they are. Like radiator hoses with cord sandwiched between rubber. Its good to have some things give a little bit.
The hoses would probably be a lower priority to me though...use of generic turbos, a large intercooler, and lack of or mechanical scavenge system would be the best changes. I loved my kit, hell, I almost bought another f-body to put it on instead of selling it.
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I have been through allot with my Kit. And I HATE those intercoolers! One dyno pull and the air temp is so high we have to wait for it to cool down. I am planing a FMIC.
My oil pump(tiltion) realy sucked. I have a belt driven one now.
My oil pump(tiltion) realy sucked. I have a belt driven one now.
Don't know if this was mentioned yet, but the Incon manifolds could have been better shaped to make plug #8 a little more accessible.
The weldon 9200 pump is a good candidate for the scavenge. I tried to go with the LPE mechanical pump a few years back but ed potter was not interested in helping us out at that time.
The weldon 9200 pump is a good candidate for the scavenge. I tried to go with the LPE mechanical pump a few years back but ed potter was not interested in helping us out at that time.
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Originally Posted by 69firebird
Yeah,
I would imangine that having those silicone hoses made would drive up te cost some. for a limited production run.
I would imangine that having those silicone hoses made would drive up te cost some. for a limited production run.
I love mine and have had zero problems. With its reliability. I did dremel on the manifold for 30 seconds next to where the #8 plug goes. I did not use the incon FPR since i already had one.