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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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I've heard a lot of praise about this kit, I've also heard a lot of the more hardcore boost guys knock it. My situation is that I want a power-adder that's semi inexpensive, and reliable. I HAVE to keep my AC, and other ammenities. I don't have the ability to have my car down for a long period. And I'd don't have the knowledge to fab up my own kit.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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I am thinking of doing the same thing. I like the looks of the Pro Charger too though. Any info on either would be great.
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I also am looking at the Procharger. It's 1k more though. Add to that you should still add headers, Y, and exhaust.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Of the 3 people i know running sts setups 0 can drive their car right now . . .
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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You will love the STS kit. I have had mine on for a year now and had no problems with it. The truck had 117k on it when I installed it and now it has 146k on it. I drag race it at the track every weekend and drive it everyday at work. The motor is bone stock and the compression check I did a few months ago showed no lose. It is a great daily drive. Thats my 2 cents.
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STS has proven itself again and again both in the truck realm and GTO areas. F-bodies here have had good results. For what you want it sounds like a good choice. It's simplicity and ease of install are good for the beginning FI enthusiast, but N2O is also a good power adder too. Being different has always had its price, and the STS pays it here with the non supporters.
Your A/C should still work killer too, a must in FL

OH YEAH! Tuning make sure you get it tuned right and that'll pay big dividends in keeping your car on the road.
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I have the STS kit with my a\c and a full stereo system. There is nothing like it, of course my turbo kit sounds like a jet is taking off under full throttle. Loud enough to give anyone a hard on.
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I'm already running headers, 3500 stall, and a thunder 224 cam. I'm hoping it gives a good gain
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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What kind of headers..youll prob have to go back to stock manifolds, but the good thing is you dont lose anything by doing that with the kit.
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What kind of headers..youll prob have to go back to stock manifolds, but the good thing is you dont lose anything by doing that with the kit.
You can keep the headers if you want. I trapped 110.87 in my truck it weighed 4580 with me in it at the time. My ets are down about .5-.6 because I have a stock stall with the 4l80e swap. The heat probably is'nt helping much either. This was on a little over 7 psi. My mods are in sig. Tuning is the key.
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I have an STS sytem on my GTO. My car is currently not in commission, but it's my own fault. I ran my car at 6psi with NO tuning for about 3 weeks... stupid on my part. I then got HPTuners and tore into and have become quite a bit more knowledgable. Bad part is I chunked a piston during those 3 weeks, and by the time I realized I was running 13.5:1 AFR, it was too late.

Long story short, my new iron 370, forged internals, will be back from the engine builder tomorrow and I'll have it back in and running by the weekend.

The STS kit is not what blew my motor, it was my own stupidity. So far I have no complaints on the kit, and I'm sure I'll be mid-low 11s full weight within a month.

If you put it on a stock car and have it TUNED PROPERLY, you shouldn't have an issue. Any kit, Procharger, Vortech, PTK, etc, can blow a motor fast if it's not properly tuned.
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Allot of people start out wanting a mild FI setup but this is how it sometimes goes.

1 Get a power adder run 6# boost have fun
2 Turn up boost cuz car doesnt feel fast anymore or you got smoked by a juiced neon
3 Destroy ringlands, blow up stock motor
4 Build forged shortblock
5 Hey got a forged shortblock now I can run 14#
6 Built tranny, narowed rear, mini tub, Big slicks, huge FMIC, 10 pt cage

7 Hey nice racecar

Good luck staying mild! Leave yourself room to grow.
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STS kit is not for you if you want to make big power. There isn't enough velocity back there to turn a big turbo. If you want a 400+HP street car for under 5k complete then go with STS. If you ever want 500+HP don't go STS. It's up to you.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jcfreak
You will love the STS kit. I have had mine on for a year now and had no problems with it. The truck had 117k on it when I installed it and now it has 146k on it. I drag race it at the track every weekend and drive it everyday at work. The motor is bone stock and the compression check I did a few months ago showed no lose. It is a great daily drive. Thats my 2 cents.
Gee, I wonder if your rave for STS has anything to do with the fact that you're an STS dealer
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Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
STS kit is not for you if you want to make big power. There isn't enough velocity back there to turn a big turbo. If you want a 400+HP street car for under 5k complete then go with STS. If you ever want 500+HP don't go STS. It's up to you.
Yeah, the rear mount is definately different. I know you're right about the HP figures. And I know how it goes 400hp is enough when you only have 300. When you get 400 then 500 is enough. So on and so on...
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Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
STS kit is not for you if you want to make big power. There isn't enough velocity back there to turn a big turbo. If you want a 400+HP street car for under 5k complete then go with STS. If you ever want 500+HP don't go STS. It's up to you.
umm.....2 words....Pur...Evl.Im not a big fan of STS but no one can say you CANT make power with them.he broke 800rwhp or just shy of it with an STS kit.
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I have had the system on my car for over 2 years with no problems. Rebuilt the engine after the first year to turn up the boost
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umm.....2 words....Pur...Evl.Im not a big fan of STS but no one can say you CANT make power with them.he broke 800rwhp or just shy of it with an STS kit.
And hes not alone.
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not many do this,but im doing it and its working out great at the moment.....save you money buy a forged shortblock and build the motor and get a turbo kit and make really good power,and sell the longblock in your car now,so you get back a couple $k instead of waiting til something blows up or gets worn down.
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Originally Posted by Jammer
And hes not alone.
exactly,now like i said i dont really like STS personally...but 800rwhp is 800RWHP



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