Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Is 600rwhp realistic for my setup?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-26-2005 | 02:11 PM
  #1  
CustomInductions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default Is 600rwhp realistic for my setup?

Heres the deal fellas...I have a 98 Ta with:
-Forged Wiseco Pistons
-Forged Eagle Rods
-Stock Crank
-Stock Ported Heads
-Comp Cam 232 236 dur /.595 .600 lift on a 114lsa ( I know turbos like reverse split ,higher on intake than exhaust =(
-Hardened pushrods
-comp 918's
-ls6 intake
-150hp TNT
-Walboro In Tank Fuel Pump
-ARE Ported Oil Pump
-Some Suspension goodies...etc
I want to go single TURBO setup and I have been tryin to read up as much as possible about turbos and brands...I want to have 600 rwhp for a street car and want to keep my A/C if anyway possible...and on PUMP GAS 93 octane....is this a realistic goal without tearing down my motor?? or will I have to make a lot of changes in order to accomplish this
Things Ill need (And I need some help on this pls)
-Injectors (60lbs??)
-Added in line Fuel Pump (what Kind?)
What Else??

Thanks Guys...I have a feeling this is going to be a money pit..but that sound and power just gets to me!!
Old 08-26-2005 | 02:23 PM
  #2  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

Should be easy with that setup.

Jose
Old 08-26-2005 | 02:27 PM
  #3  
99SS-T's Avatar
TECH Fanatic

iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix AZ
Default

First thing is what CR are teh pistons with teh stock heads. If you had it raised at all from stock flat tops you are definatly gona need different heads so that you cna lower the CR. 10-1 is stock CR and that aint all that friendly for boost. That cam will definatly not work. It has a good amt of overlap and that is REAL bad for FI.
If you goal is 600 adn you use methanol you can use 42# injectors with your intank and be fine. If you dont wanna use meth then you have to get 60#er's and prolly a dual intank setup. You can prolly get away with keeping the rest of the fuel system stock, IE rails lines FPR. But doing them is a good idea as you will get bored with 600 after a little while. Especially since you have a forged engine that can handle ALOT more then 600.
I would recommend gettin meth wiht even the stock CR pistons. It is a big saftey thing.
As far as a turbo kit goes i think that most of the kits available make it so that the AC is still usable. I know my Phamspeed kit does. And so does the kit that they currently sell through Ground Zero Motorsports. GL man


John

Last edited by 99SS-T; 08-26-2005 at 02:29 PM. Reason: opps
Old 08-26-2005 | 02:42 PM
  #4  
Ferocity02's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (60)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,397
Likes: 4
Default

Actually a normal split cam, with more duration on the exhaust than intake is preferred for FI, at least thats what I hear.
Old 08-26-2005 | 03:23 PM
  #5  
2000 Tran Zam's Avatar
TECH Addict

iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,333
Likes: 0
From: Ahwatukee, Az
Default

Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Actually a normal split cam, with more duration on the exhaust than intake is preferred for FI, at least thats what I hear.

normal split pattern cams are preferred for superchargers, reverse split are good for turbos...
Old 08-26-2005 | 03:40 PM
  #6  
CustomInductions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the replys guys....My CR is stock.. I just spun a rod bearing on my previous setup...so I wanted to go forged...and the machine shop just hoaned the block a lil to clean the walls and then the stock compression forged pistons went in...would I be sacrafising that much more power if I went back to a stock ls6 cam??...or would a reverse split came give me much more??..Also I was thinking about the meth setup...but I would like to get there without..as I get tired filling up my n20 bottle...so Id rather have it on foot...and then meth for the extra boost....AM I going to have to choose one or the other for the injectors??....or will meth work on 60's?
Old 08-26-2005 | 04:14 PM
  #7  
Pro Stock John's Avatar
LS1Tech Co-Founder
20 Year Member
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 44,830
Likes: 1,251
From: Chicago, IL
Default

I'd keep the cam you have, I bet it would make more power than an 01 Z06 and have better power under the curve. Turbos might like reverse splits, but duration makes horsepower.

I think stock 10.1:1 compression + 600rwhp is doable, with 60 lb injectors. As long as the tune is not crazy and you have some sort of intercooler.
Old 08-26-2005 | 05:15 PM
  #8  
HellRaiser's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,376
Likes: 0
From: Bucks County, PA
Default

I think you could hit it easy. More if wanted it.
Old 08-26-2005 | 05:23 PM
  #9  
93formto98T/A's Avatar
TECH Fanatic

iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,586
Likes: 1
Default

If you do decide to upgrade etc to go much over 600-650rwhp and keep it streetable/dependable I would definitely consider a forged crank vs the stocker. Just my .02
Old 08-26-2005 | 06:01 PM
  #10  
CustomInductions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default

Would I need any other things other than:
-60lb injectors
-inline fuel pump (added with mine)
-Turbo kit (looking at the Pham Speed T70 w/ FMIC)
??
There seems to be something that is always left out of 'kits' that seem to be a couple bills..How much boost you think it would take to pull this off?
Old 08-26-2005 | 06:04 PM
  #11  
Ferocity02's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (60)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,397
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by CustomInductions
Would I need any other things other than:
-60lb injectors
-inline fuel pump (added with mine)
-Turbo kit (looking at the Pham Speed T70 w/ FMIC)
??
There seems to be something that is always left out of 'kits' that seem to be a couple bills..How much boost you think it would take to pull this off?
Phamspeed is out of buisness. Do you mean the Groundzero budget kit? (which is the Phamspeed budget kit)
Old 08-26-2005 | 06:20 PM
  #12  
CustomInductions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default

Wow...yea I guess so...I just had someone show me the kit on the internet..and been reading up on it here...so I figured it would be pretty good....I appreciate the help guys...Im gonna have to do some more reading up and then decide on the $$ im gonna shell out for this....but TURBO is coming soon

Last edited by CustomInductions; 08-26-2005 at 06:36 PM.
Old 08-27-2005 | 05:37 PM
  #13  
cpt. No Hood's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Default

save your money. up the nitrous.
Old 08-27-2005 | 07:24 PM
  #14  
ddnspider's Avatar
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,608
Likes: 1,755
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by cpt. No Hood
save your money. up the nitrous.
Old 08-27-2005 | 09:52 PM
  #15  
CustomInductions's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by cpt. No Hood
save your money. up the nitrous.


If I didnt spend it my g/f would...lol..




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:29 PM.