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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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Ok i can do all the pipeing that i need to do welding and cutign wise to install a turbo but i dont have the skills to make me a set of headers. who can make a good set of front faceing headers for a large fram turbo mounted at the radiator support? Looking for some one to do it in the Houston area. was thanking of just doing stock manifolds but figrued it would be worth to do it right.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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I had a local machine shop do mine, but if you have a tig welder I would suggest giving it a shot yourself - its not that hard if you take your time and have the right tools.
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Im in the Austin area. I just got done making my set.. If you want I can fab ya up aome and we can discuss a price?
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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yea i know i cant do it lol jont want to even try lol. Tcharged do you have any pictures of them? I wouldnt mind seeing them
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 05:45 AM
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Ok i can do all the pipeing that i need to do welding and cutign wise to install a turbo but i dont have the skills to make me a set of headers. who can make a good set of front faceing headers for a large fram turbo mounted at the radiator support? Looking for some one to do it in the Houston area. was thanking of just doing stock manifolds but figrued it would be worth to do it right.
I can do them. You sig says /AZ., is that another residence or you live in Texas full time now. Reason I ask is I'm in Phoenix, AZ. You can click on my link and see some of my work if you'd like?

Brett
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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well i live in avondale Az but Just bring my car back to texas to get the work done on it get cage installed and everything. I am friends with steave and you are the one that did his car.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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I just built a set. The collectors were the most difficult. Lot's of work! What do people even charge for a set of 321 double slip fit headers like this I wonder. Make sure you use good materials. I imagine if they are not off the shelf, they will be big money!
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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those are nice headers, itd be nice to have a set like that, however Id bet someone would charge about a grand a peice for something of the like
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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that is very good work man ship good job
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
I just built a set. The collectors were the most difficult. Lot's of work! What do people even charge for a set of 321 double slip fit headers like this I wonder. Make sure you use good materials. I imagine if they are not off the shelf, they will be big money!
Nice work!

How long did it take you to do those? Did you also have to machine the flat stock or can you buy that stuff setup for the LS1 heads? Why did you make them slip fit, is there an advantage to doing them that way?
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Have you ever seen Wormboys car. My self and friend built his entire setup.
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I think PTK sells mild-steel header flanges, but I don't know if anyone sells 321 or 304 flanges. Maybe Hi-Flow will now that they are in the game?
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Stainless works sells 304 header flanges for the Ls1
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Nice to know!
Hmmmmm....
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I did not keep track of the hours to build. Maybe 40-60 hours total. It was tough to make the collectors. I made them from scratch. I imagine a set would cost about $3000 + I went slip fit to allow the pipes room to move when they expand and contract. I bought the head flanges through a source of mine. You can use 304 flanges. They don't see nearly as much heat as the tubes being that they are bolted to heatsinks ( head, wastegate, turbo). They are nice pieces.
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
I did not keep track of the hours to build. Maybe 40-60 hours total. It was tough to make the collectors. I made them from scratch. I imagine a set would cost about $3000 + I went slip fit to allow the pipes room to move when they expand and contract. I bought the head flanges through a source of mine. You can use 304 flanges. They don't see nearly as much heat as the tubes being that they are bolted to heatsinks ( head, wastegate, turbo). They are nice pieces.


Those are great looking pieces but you have the added advantage of more space under the hood of that chevelle vs. an LS1 F-body.

Ok, now, explain slip fit to me.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Turbo Applications that have slip fits usually are double slip. Similer to a male/female weatherpack.

Since conventional slip headers would most likely leak under turbo backpressure ( north of 50 psi on the higher boost cars) People build a second slip to aid in sealing.

Burns does an excellent Job at them, but expect to pay a premium. http://burnsstainless.com/MergeColle...ollectors.html
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Ahhh, cool. I figured it was something of that nature, just wasn't sure. The collectors are pricey, but if you can well, you can probably save yourself some time and $$$ by buying the collectors and then bending your own zoomies into them.
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I was thinking the way to go would be to buy the flanges and collectors and do the rest of the fabbing myself in 321 SS, I think it would be worth it to spend $250 on these pieces and another couple of hundred for the pipes. Since I'd want to support the turbos partial with the headers, I don't think the slip-fits would work very well for my application, or am I wrong?

You have me thinking now, I have a Miller tig and plenty of 321 wire!
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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BTW, what are the best ways to cut 321?
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