It'd look pretty cool with some old school baby moons on it too. I can't wait to see this project when it's done! 
A new project
Originally Posted by 427
Kevin, the C-16 starts adding in above 300hp. It is a 25%pump 75% c-16 mix. The C-16 tank at 10 gallons will probably last all of Powertour without refilling.
Rough calcs.
A 1000hp engine will need 550#hr of fuel to run at wot(1000hp). 10 gallons of C-16 is about 80 pounds. We will be burning about 9 pounds a minute at wot. That gives us almost 9 minutes of full throttle operation before the C-16 tank needs refilling. On power tour a 5 second burst of WOT could get you a 4 digit ticket! With a 10 second ET we could make about 50 1/4 mile runs on one C-16 tankfull.
Kurt
Rough calcs.
A 1000hp engine will need 550#hr of fuel to run at wot(1000hp). 10 gallons of C-16 is about 80 pounds. We will be burning about 9 pounds a minute at wot. That gives us almost 9 minutes of full throttle operation before the C-16 tank needs refilling. On power tour a 5 second burst of WOT could get you a 4 digit ticket! With a 10 second ET we could make about 50 1/4 mile runs on one C-16 tankfull.
Kurt
Just kidding with ya anyhow, I think its a great idea, at 300hp you could probably run 87 pump and still be plenty safe.
Is that 300hp above what the motor will make NA? I can't imagine adding C16 at 5hp lower than what a stock F-body LS1 is rated at 
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I mean, that would be adding C16 every time you go past 5% throttle on a 402
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.I mean, that would be adding C16 every time you go past 5% throttle on a 402
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Originally Posted by Kev@WheeltoWheel
We assume prior to testing 300 is when the mix should start coming in.
Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.
RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!
1/4 mile ET test 20.39 seconds !!!!!
Who wants some
Baseline dyno numbers as of a few minutes ago.
RWHP 88 !!!!!!!!!
1/4 mile ET test 20.39 seconds !!!!!
Who wants some
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
DUDE, thats TIGHT, what did it trap?
330 8.792 44.25
660 13.210 55.70
1000 17.09 63.099
1320 20.39 68.83
I think it's a record for the slowest vehicle ever on our dyno
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A 3.21 60', that is some torque! That's frickin' great!! You guys should look into doing meth injection instead of the C16 switching. I was going to do the same setup with a switching system and 2 tanks, but now I think am I am just going to do meth injection and call it good.
Originally Posted by Kev@WheeltoWheel
60 foot 3.21 68.83 mph
330 8.792 44.25
660 13.210 55.70
1000 17.09 63.099
1520 20.39 68.83
I think it's a record for the slowest vehicle ever on our dyno
330 8.792 44.25
660 13.210 55.70
1000 17.09 63.099
1520 20.39 68.83
I think it's a record for the slowest vehicle ever on our dyno
no wonder its so slow
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Sounds like a badass project, dont pay any attention to the idiot "haters" they have no clue.
I'll for sure keep up with the progress. I'm loving the "worn" exterior with killer drivetrain setup, should be a hit... Freiburger seems to have hit on that a little lately too.
And fwiw, novas really arent over done. 1st gen camaros, tri-5 chevys, yes, all over done, but hell they are still badass cars.
I'll for sure keep up with the progress. I'm loving the "worn" exterior with killer drivetrain setup, should be a hit... Freiburger seems to have hit on that a little lately too.
And fwiw, novas really arent over done. 1st gen camaros, tri-5 chevys, yes, all over done, but hell they are still badass cars.
Originally Posted by JRL96TA
Novas are so overdone, but whatever floats your boat.
Sweet project, can't wait til its done, keep us posted.
Hopefully you guys will dress up the engine with some nice looking parts. 
I'm hoping 9 seconds at wot will be over 150mph. The police, or the fear of them will keep my foot out of it some!
The 300hp switch is based on a 19lb hr injector. The 19 is something I want for drivability. This will be a test for our customers in the long run, although we will have fun learning. We are not out to prove how much power we can make on pump gas. We are trying to showcase drivable power.
Kurt
The 300hp switch is based on a 19lb hr injector. The 19 is something I want for drivability. This will be a test for our customers in the long run, although we will have fun learning. We are not out to prove how much power we can make on pump gas. We are trying to showcase drivable power.
Kurt
Originally Posted by Reckless
Haha! No way in hell that tank is gonna last if Kurt is driving! I have ridden with you Kurt in the boosted truck. "Mr. Happy Foot" 
Originally Posted by 427
I'm hoping 9 seconds at wot will be over 150mph. The police, or the fear of them will keep my foot out of it some!
The 300hp switch is based on a 19lb hr injector. The 19 is something I want for drivability. This will be a test for our customers in the long run, although we will have fun learning. We are not out to prove how much power we can make on pump gas. We are trying to showcase drivable power.
Kurt
The 300hp switch is based on a 19lb hr injector. The 19 is something I want for drivability. This will be a test for our customers in the long run, although we will have fun learning. We are not out to prove how much power we can make on pump gas. We are trying to showcase drivable power.
Kurt
thats an awsome idea. i kinda thought of something like that a while back but since i dont have W2W funds the idea was just that. how does that work though? once the injector gets over or close to its max duty cycle does it turn on the bigger ones?
You got it. When it reaches a point we will program (80% duty cycle), The box will re-calculate the pulse width for 84#hr. 84#hr will be 65#hr + 19#hr running at the same time. This will result in 78% of the fuel coming from the 65#hr injector that will be fed by the second gas tank with c-16 fuel. When you back off the throttle below approx 300hp (19#hr) the 65#hr injectors will shut down and the box will change pulsewidth for one 19# injector running on the pump gas tank.
This box is available from BS3 now under the name "Staged injection". It does need two tanks/fuel systems and 16 injectors to work but should be the ultimate street set up. We will drive it on Powertour to test that next year.
Kurt
This box is available from BS3 now under the name "Staged injection". It does need two tanks/fuel systems and 16 injectors to work but should be the ultimate street set up. We will drive it on Powertour to test that next year.
Kurt
Originally Posted by rons 00z
thats an awsome idea. i kinda thought of something like that a while back but since i dont have W2W funds the idea was just that. how does that work though? once the injector gets over or close to its max duty cycle does it turn on the bigger ones?