question about 8rib & cog setups?
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question about 8rib & cog setups? any one know how much a 8 rib setup costs for an ATI unit???
how about the cog set up??
will any of these setups move the blower from it's current location?? which way?
will any of these setups come with a bigger crank pulley?
anyone running them ?? any problems with them?
how about the cog set up??
will any of these setups move the blower from it's current location?? which way?
will any of these setups come with a bigger crank pulley?
anyone running them ?? any problems with them?
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1dirtyZ:
<strong>any one know how much a 8 rib setup costs for an ATI unit???
how about the cog set up??
will any of these setups move the blower from it's current location?? which way?
will any of these setups come with a bigger crank pulley?
anyone running them ?? any problems with them?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think they quoted $499 for the 8-rib. That replaces pulleys, brackets spacers. IT does ahve a larger crank pulley, which would make smaller pulley for SC unnecessary for more boost, which also reduces slippage (more contact area for the belt).
I haven't had a big need for one right now. I've replaced the belt three times... once for swapping to smaller pulley, once when putting on a new idler pulley that wore and ate the belt, and another time because I tightented that new belt on the new idler pulley too quickly and it broke. The next one I let it run less tight (at the expense of full boost) for a day or two and tightened it up gradually until my boost was right.
I may not get away with using the 6-rib setup when the 422 goes in. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>any one know how much a 8 rib setup costs for an ATI unit???
how about the cog set up??
will any of these setups move the blower from it's current location?? which way?
will any of these setups come with a bigger crank pulley?
anyone running them ?? any problems with them?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think they quoted $499 for the 8-rib. That replaces pulleys, brackets spacers. IT does ahve a larger crank pulley, which would make smaller pulley for SC unnecessary for more boost, which also reduces slippage (more contact area for the belt).
I haven't had a big need for one right now. I've replaced the belt three times... once for swapping to smaller pulley, once when putting on a new idler pulley that wore and ate the belt, and another time because I tightented that new belt on the new idler pulley too quickly and it broke. The next one I let it run less tight (at the expense of full boost) for a day or two and tightened it up gradually until my boost was right.
I may not get away with using the 6-rib setup when the 422 goes in. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Mike I believe the 8 rib was 700 when i talked to him. the COG set up will be around 1200 jason thinks. Im still waiting for him to call me and tell me that mine is done. However with the COG set up they tell you to get the bigger BOV from ati. thats 400
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Well I bought the 8rib setup from GWP and it doesn't work. GWP told me they have done 8rib setup but none of them have been on the stock ATI blower bracket(they told me this after I gave them my Credit Card #.) The crank pulley doesn't sit flush in my balancer and the blower pulley has no offset so it hits my blower bracket. Also the idler pulley is wayyyyy tooo wide. I am returning them to GWP for a refund. Kenny told me on thursday that he would refund me my $500. I spent a lot of time trying to make this setup work and it didn't happen. BTW the crank pulley is 8" and my blower pulley is 4.50". I will have more info about this later in the week.
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Part of the point of a custom 8-rib system is to run larger pullies to get more contact area. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> With the larger crank pulley, you would get the higher boost level without running such a small blower pulley.
I double-checked the price. They posted $499 a few months ago... doubt if they raised it by $200. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
If your 8-rib did not work for you, you must have told them a wrong measurement. To custom make one for you, they ask you certain measurements of your existing system. They have done this with other cars, so it's not like they experimented on you. But, for that to be accurate, the crank pulley needs to be off the car. Did you do that?
I double-checked the price. They posted $499 a few months ago... doubt if they raised it by $200. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
If your 8-rib did not work for you, you must have told them a wrong measurement. To custom make one for you, they ask you certain measurements of your existing system. They have done this with other cars, so it's not like they experimented on you. But, for that to be accurate, the crank pulley needs to be off the car. Did you do that?
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? are you talking to me mike? I know you must have a larger pulley with a 8rib. That is not the issue I am having. It isn't a custome 8rib. They told me it would fit. That is the problem. More lies!!!
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? I know what I am doing. GWP gets their blower pulley and idler pulley from ATI. Then they have ASP pulley machine them a 8rib crank pulley. Or atleast the backing for it. Yes I do have the balancer off the car and the crank pulley isn't even long enought to fit in my balancer. BTW can you stop sticking up for GWP? It is getting REALLY old. Mike how long have you been waiting for your 422 motor?
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? When I order the 8 rib setup GWP only asked me what size blower pulley I wanted. Once I received my three new 8rib pullies I told GWP that my 4.50" blower pulley was hitting the main bracket and the idler pulley was 3/4" larger then the stock 6rib. I told them I need narrower idler pulley and they said ATI didn't make one. Then they said 8rib pullies don't have offsets on them(if they were custome they would.) Jason told me to call ATI and they sould help. Ati then sent me a spacer for the blower pulley but now the pulley does line up with all the others. So if this was a custom deal they would have made me a narrower idler pulley and made a blower pulley with the proper offset. All I need for my blower pulley is a .050" offset and ATI's smallest is a .075" offset which comes on all the 6rib Ls1 blower kits. GWP isn't helping me with this problem. All they did was tell me to call ATI and talk to some one their. Bottom line is they don't Have the time (or want to send the time) to make this setup work for me. I gave them $500 and they have not given me an honest working product. Kenny told me to ship my balancer and crank pulley to him and he would make it work. Well shipping for three days would cost me $50 after I already paid $500 that is bullshit. On top of that I bet they would take there jolly *** time getting everything back to me. GWP needs more employes. Then they can tend to all of their customers.
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Jasen,
If you send GWP anything make sure you keep all your paperwork. This way they don't wait 3 months then try and tell you they never got it, and when you send them the tracking number showing that they signed for it, you never hear from them again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
If you send GWP anything make sure you keep all your paperwork. This way they don't wait 3 months then try and tell you they never got it, and when you send them the tracking number showing that they signed for it, you never hear from them again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? SS2000, YOU are the one who said GWP made the 8-Rib pulley you got... now you say they got it frim ATI. Which is it? And just WHO is doing the lying.
You wanna know what's old? Your lame back and foth stories.
One minute GWP is crap. The next they are the best thing happening. You are a wishy-washy child who says what pops into your head at the moment.
The day you get tired of me calling you on your <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> is when you stop talking it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
You wanna know what's old? Your lame back and foth stories.
One minute GWP is crap. The next they are the best thing happening. You are a wishy-washy child who says what pops into your head at the moment.
The day you get tired of me calling you on your <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> is when you stop talking it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Oh... and the reason you love it here is this forum lets BS walk for a thousand and two miles before saying enough's enough.
You post your drivel everywhere and think that's cool. But, I can't post my piece?
Grow up and go serve your country or something for a few years and then come back and tell me how YOU are free to post <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> , but you are tired of what I have to say. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
You post your drivel everywhere and think that's cool. But, I can't post my piece?
Grow up and go serve your country or something for a few years and then come back and tell me how YOU are free to post <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> , but you are tired of what I have to say. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Mike I asked Jason where they get their 8rib pulley setup and they said they get the idler and blower pulley from ATI and the crank pulley is from ASP pulley.So I am not a lieing you ******* ***. Dude you are the one that is getting old. I can't even stand to read what you type because it is the same old "I work for GWP so I am going to defend them" bullshit. Mike I will admitte in a lot of posts you have good things to contribute but when it comes to GWP you are noting but and old fashion brown noser. That is just the bottom line. Well I hope I get my money back fom GWP then I will never have to do business with them again,
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? SuperSport2000 quotes:
"I was being very impatient and now realize that somethings just take time to get"
"All and all I relized that GWP is a pretty honest company"
How about:
"Well Mike I finally found the block button and I am going to use it."
What was that? A lie?
Hypocrite. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
"I was being very impatient and now realize that somethings just take time to get"
"All and all I relized that GWP is a pretty honest company"
How about:
"Well Mike I finally found the block button and I am going to use it."
What was that? A lie?
Hypocrite. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? chill out super sport,
i took me 6 months to get a SHORT BLOCK , and it wasn't from GWP, it was from another sponsor here.
if knew better i would have had GWP do it.
so quit your whining and be patient, maybe if you showed just a little respect to others you would get somewhere.
i took me 6 months to get a SHORT BLOCK , and it wasn't from GWP, it was from another sponsor here.
if knew better i would have had GWP do it.
so quit your whining and be patient, maybe if you showed just a little respect to others you would get somewhere.
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? Mike, Jason asked me to clear things up on ls1.com because he was getting a lot of hype for what I said. I did so and because of that he gave me a deal on my new blower. I will admite I should have never done that and it will never happen again. I gave into something I didn't want to do to benefit myself(very self centered.) As far as bashing them I feel no need to do so unless some asks me how their products perform, and how their customer service is. I am not going to lie to someone, instead I give them MY HONEST OPINION. Which is I have had nothing but problems with them. Jason is a nice guy when you call and inquire about purchasing parts. But after you buy parts from him you get nothing but lies about shipping dates it gets old. He tells me parts have been shipped when they haven't. Well I am done with my flame. You have your opinion and I have mine. I am happy you have had a good experience with GWP but I haven't to say the least.
Dirty if you wana deal with GWP that is your problem. I am just telling you they are nothing but problems. And don't tell me to respect a company that consists of nothing but liars. You don't know the half of it so but out.
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Dirty if you wana deal with GWP that is your problem. I am just telling you they are nothing but problems. And don't tell me to respect a company that consists of nothing but liars. You don't know the half of it so but out.
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? calm down man, read the "respect" part of my comment again, let it sink in.
i dealt with them alot. i have their stage 2 kit and i am very happy with it.
i'd rather deal with them than with ATI.
i respect your opinion , but frankly calling others liars is more like slander, not opinion.
try calling any other place and give them the same attitude you're giving me now, see how long you could keep talking before they hang up on you.
flaming someone will never get you anywhere, try asking politely. you'll be amazed by the results.
<small>[ August 11, 2002, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: 1dirtyZ ]</small>
i dealt with them alot. i have their stage 2 kit and i am very happy with it.
i'd rather deal with them than with ATI.
i respect your opinion , but frankly calling others liars is more like slander, not opinion.
try calling any other place and give them the same attitude you're giving me now, see how long you could keep talking before they hang up on you.
flaming someone will never get you anywhere, try asking politely. you'll be amazed by the results.
<small>[ August 11, 2002, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: 1dirtyZ ]</small>
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Re: question about 8rib & cog setups? 1dirtyz,
He misunderstood what you said because he very impulsively jumps on something you said and runs with it.
SS2000, look at the comment you made about Jason. Here is a guy (Jason) who tries to give you a deal to make you a happy customer and you STILL make something sinister out of it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> In the same breath where you say he cut you a deal, you turn that into some sort of bribe!
I say NO ONE could please a customer of your ilk. They did way more for you than I would. I would have kicked your a$$ to the curb after seeing you could not be pleased. The only way you'd buy something from me is to have your Dad do your purchasing for you. You need to grow up!
Do you think my comments are disrespectful? Well... keep giving someone disrespect and that's what you get... disrespect. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
He misunderstood what you said because he very impulsively jumps on something you said and runs with it.
SS2000, look at the comment you made about Jason. Here is a guy (Jason) who tries to give you a deal to make you a happy customer and you STILL make something sinister out of it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> In the same breath where you say he cut you a deal, you turn that into some sort of bribe!
I say NO ONE could please a customer of your ilk. They did way more for you than I would. I would have kicked your a$$ to the curb after seeing you could not be pleased. The only way you'd buy something from me is to have your Dad do your purchasing for you. You need to grow up!
Do you think my comments are disrespectful? Well... keep giving someone disrespect and that's what you get... disrespect. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />