Lingenfelter Blower
I called Magna Charger yesterday and they said they have looked at the fbodys but they don't make parts to sell to individuals at first. They wait till they get a big order then they start their fitment work and r&d. The one they have now will not fit fbodys but they have looked at using a smaller blower they already make. Bombbared them with calls and emails and maybe they will make it. I know I would buy one for my LS6ed SS. HioSSilver
I wonder how much of the blower would be above the level of the hood. I had thought that it would be O.K. to cut into the body up near the windshield. My buddy has his engine out of his LT-1 for the winter and I was looking at that area. It seems that there is enogh extra metal there that cutting away a chunk wouldn't really hurt anything. You would just have to relocate the passenger side wiper and motor. Don't we have a new sponser that just so happens to make a hood that would work great with a magna charger? So, there you go Lingenfelter. No more excuses. If you build it....I will buy.
2edybrd -
Just for you, I will go out in the shop, and the next F-body that has the intake off, I will pickup a Magnusson setup, and one of our fab guys, and him and I will see if there is any way at all to fit one. I'm not promising anything, but I will look, just for personal knowledge.
I will post the result here when I have it.
Ed
Just for you, I will go out in the shop, and the next F-body that has the intake off, I will pickup a Magnusson setup, and one of our fab guys, and him and I will see if there is any way at all to fit one. I'm not promising anything, but I will look, just for personal knowledge.
I will post the result here when I have it.
Ed
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I will be eagarly awaiting your post Ed. Thanks.
I bugged the Magnuson people over a month ago for details and why it didn't fit. They were quite forthcoming with info.
They tried the C5 kit on the F-body, but according to their engineers, the MP112 blower's casing actually hit the cowl. They then tried a smaller MP90 blower, which almost fit, but the rear pully set-up still touched the cowl. They think that if they used a smaller pulley set-up, they could get it to fit. However, they are currently working on a supercharger kit for C4 Corvettes and don't know when they will get back to the F-body issue, but haven't quite given up yet. Let them know that there are a lot of us with F-bodies that want this kit...bad.
What I really wanted to know, and I didn't get out of them, is how much the MP112 overlaps the cowl. I would certainly consider cutting 1-2" out of the cowl to make this set-up fit. If you think about it, the current drive on the back of the MP112 is big. If their engineers could redesign the back blower case so that it houses a narrower internal gear, oil bath set-up instead of the fat cog/pulley set up they use now, they would create a lot of room back there.
If someone figures out a way, I will buy it tomorrow.
The C5 guys are having great results, not the peaky hi HP figures of the hair dryers, but actual results speaker louder than dyno charts.. they are all well into the 11's/120's on street tires in the 1/4 mile.. definite 10's possible on slicks, still getting about 29 mpg on the highway, like stock drivability, 400+ ft/lbs torque from 2000 rpm, easy install, few problems like people see with the ATI's.
If ED/ Lingenfelter could figure out something for us, it would be a hell of a Christmas present.
I bugged the Magnuson people over a month ago for details and why it didn't fit. They were quite forthcoming with info.
They tried the C5 kit on the F-body, but according to their engineers, the MP112 blower's casing actually hit the cowl. They then tried a smaller MP90 blower, which almost fit, but the rear pully set-up still touched the cowl. They think that if they used a smaller pulley set-up, they could get it to fit. However, they are currently working on a supercharger kit for C4 Corvettes and don't know when they will get back to the F-body issue, but haven't quite given up yet. Let them know that there are a lot of us with F-bodies that want this kit...bad.
What I really wanted to know, and I didn't get out of them, is how much the MP112 overlaps the cowl. I would certainly consider cutting 1-2" out of the cowl to make this set-up fit. If you think about it, the current drive on the back of the MP112 is big. If their engineers could redesign the back blower case so that it houses a narrower internal gear, oil bath set-up instead of the fat cog/pulley set up they use now, they would create a lot of room back there.
If someone figures out a way, I will buy it tomorrow.
The C5 guys are having great results, not the peaky hi HP figures of the hair dryers, but actual results speaker louder than dyno charts.. they are all well into the 11's/120's on street tires in the 1/4 mile.. definite 10's possible on slicks, still getting about 29 mpg on the highway, like stock drivability, 400+ ft/lbs torque from 2000 rpm, easy install, few problems like people see with the ATI's.
If ED/ Lingenfelter could figure out something for us, it would be a hell of a Christmas present.
OK I had this idea a while back and never looked into it. I may be out of my mind but here goes. There seams to be alot of room in front of the engine down low. Mount the blower there, with the drive pulley facing the back of the car, and the blower itself out in front of the engine, possibly drive it with a double alternater pulley. You would need a romote manifold but that would make it possible to go thru an intercooler and into your stock manifold. So am I nuts? Don't some other SC's mount there also? The C5 design is simpler but no intercooler.
Thanks Ed. There's got to be a way to make this thing fit. I would cut my cowl also if needed. I like it when the blower sets up there where it belongs, makes a neater package. I think this would be a great peice for the f-bodys.
By coincidence, I ran into someone over here in Japan that had a 95 Camaro Z28.. he had pulled the LT1 motor & replaced it with a Corvette LS6, an aluminum intake manifold and had this funky Nitrous system that plumbed straight into the tops of the runners of the intake manifold (car ran high 10's in the 1/4). To make room for his funky Nitrous lines over the back intake manifold runners, he cut-out the entire cowling piece that hangs out over the back of the firewall. He also hid the coils and with the fancy valve covers he had on, you'd almost think you were looking at the engine bay of an older Camaro. What really shocked me was how stock it looked and the engine was almost completely uncovered..more than a C5 vette...looked really great. However, since he cut the **whole** thing out, he lost his windsheild wiper set-up. If we can figure a way to cut the piece right near the back of the blower & retain the wiper system, we would be good to go.
i know i have been leaning toward TT but if anyone made a roots for our cars like the magnuson, I would buy it in a heart beat that would be perfect.
I am getting goose bumps!!!!
I am getting goose bumps!!!!
The guys at Magnusson were very open with me on inquiring about it a while back. After lots of measuring, as is on the Vette, it would require cutting the cowl out above the valley area significantly. Additionally, minor trimming would be needed on a WS6 hood...worse on a stock Firebird hood. Not sure of the Camaro/SS hoods.
Also, where it is driven, it would interfere with the cam on the throttle body whereas the Vette has ETC on the driver's side of the t/body. For me, since I don't have wipers on the car, I would not care about.
All of these issues can be worked around as it is a very nice blower with by-pass valve. However, unless the height is changed and the drive location is changed, it won't be anything of a plug&play. Remember, the Vette's motor does not go under the cowling like the F-cars.
Happy New Year to all of you and your families.
Also, where it is driven, it would interfere with the cam on the throttle body whereas the Vette has ETC on the driver's side of the t/body. For me, since I don't have wipers on the car, I would not care about.
All of these issues can be worked around as it is a very nice blower with by-pass valve. However, unless the height is changed and the drive location is changed, it won't be anything of a plug&play. Remember, the Vette's motor does not go under the cowling like the F-cars.
Happy New Year to all of you and your families.






