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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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If you plan on going with a forged setup later on I urge you to go with a 402 or 408 especially if you're going with a bigger turbo. The cubes will make your numbers even nicer.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
AFTER MESSING WITH qUICKSILVERADOS sts TRUCK, i AM A BIG FAN OF THE STS KIT. He has the gt-67...6.0 forged..12 psi and no intercooler and runs 119 traps..11.35 is best et. Aint no cam only truck going to run that at 4600#. He runs on 93 pump gas....4l80e..2800 stall and 3.42 gears. I dunno why the haters...the kit works...I have seen it first hand and believe that he will run 10s when he gets that intercooler on and i can give it more than 12 degrees of timing up top
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WS-Sick
If you plan on going with a forged setup later on I urge you to go with a 402 or 408 especially if you're going with a bigger turbo. The cubes will make your numbers even nicer.

Yup, look at my numbers so far...
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BURN'EM
Still not an STS fan.You could have made the same if not more power on Spray for 1/5 the price, however to each is his own. Nice power what is the MPH of you 11.6 run?
Common guys... everyone knows you can forge a motor and Spray the **** out of it and get great results for the dollar.

But you wanna run me 3 out of 5? Your bottle will be getting kinda light... Oh by the way... I dont open or refill anything to tap my power... just press the gas to the floor.

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by longrange4u
Common guys... everyone knows you can forge a motor and Spray the **** out of it and get great results for the dollar.

But you wanna run me 3 out of 5? Your bottle will be getting kinda light... Oh by the way... I dont open or refill anything to tap my power... just press the gas to the floor.

Jared
I have 2 bottles in the car just for that reason. I promise you your car would grenade faster then the nitrous car would if you were on the streets and ran 5 consecutive passes back to back with no cool down.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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I have had or ridden in all the power adders in various vehicles. THEY ALL WORK!!! Heads/cam/headers,nitrous,superchargers ,turbos.All fun and all good and seen all of them run great times. There are already several sts cars running great times. The system works and quite well. And nitrous is only great when the bottle is full.
Turbo is always there ,makes the power quite low in the rpm band depending on turbo sizing,engine size,etc and can be very docile in daily driving but a tiger when in boost. Don't hurt mileage even helps out in that department if you are light on the gas.
I have been in one sts lt1 now and it impressed a lot. It easily beat my modded 96lt1 and was bone stock running 5 pounds boost.I went by my car like it was standing still.Never raced it with my 99 trans am yet ,99 is down with clutch/hydraulic problems.
And cheaper ways to get power are not always the way people want to go. I can take an old 500 car and throw in a big engine,gut it and make it as fast or faster than lots of cars on this board. But having a nice super or turbo just makes the car that much more fun or cooler.Supercharger whine or turbo sounds..a car that sounds like a freakin jet.
Can't get that na or with spray .And hey turbos and spray work well too.
And most turbo cars are not set up for drag racing.Lots of guys don't care less about the 1/4 mile or track racing. I only made it to track after 45 years on the planet..am 47 now. I always had muscle cars and stuff but never really mattered about track times. Some enjoy a fast highway blast or handling or all of the above. Our cars really are lousy drag cars. Too big,too heavy,crappy rear ends stock,
crappy autos and stock clutches..etc.

Anyway I have ridden in and run against an sts car,it was no joke.The system worked well. I still plan on turbo for my 99 trans am but going front mount. The sts to me are too much money new ,they went up over a grand since they first came out and don't want to take off my b and b catback or cut off my kenny brown subframe connector.
Also they did sort of lie ,on buddies lt1 car he needs bigge injectors and fuel pump even to run 5 psi without big knock. Not a huge deal but still more money. He bought a timing retard ignition also.

So sts haters think its about time you gave it up. Yes its pricey and yes you can go just as fast for cheaper. But it does work ,does turn out some great track and dyno times and does attract more attention at car shows then having Pam Anderson on your hood naked!

I would consider an sts used for cheap on any of my f bodies. They sound awesome when they spool up beside your or in front of you.There was some lag in buddies auto car but he needs a stall and two steps help also.And forget hooking up these turbos on street tires.Nittos or drag tires pretty much required to run any decent times.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
I have 2 bottles in the car just for that reason. I promise you your car would grenade faster then the nitrous car would if you were on the streets and ran 5 consecutive passes back to back with no cool down.
Bold statement.. a tad far fetched. If his tuning is in check he'd hand you your ***.... cause youre going to run out... 2 bottles or not, I promise you.

Sorry.. I just really hate dumb *** arguments. Too many "ifs" and the only sure thing is youll run out of bottle.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 3800SII
At the end of the day you still have to fill up the bottle. A cam and nitrous is just a simpler way to reach the same power levels. Having a turbo means you can get great results without the bottle. You will find that the costs will
even out over time.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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I also agree that I love the mild manner of my Turbo cam.... no big lope or rough idle. Some guys love that... I love that sitting at the light you would never know. Now of course all of that goes to the wind the moment that I push the gas... there is no sound that compares in my opinion. It is wonderful... I will see if I can get a recording and post it for you.
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
I have had or ridden in all the power adders in various vehicles. THEY ALL WORK!!! Heads/cam/headers,nitrous,superchargers ,turbos.All fun and all good and seen all of them run great times. There are already several sts cars running great times. The system works and quite well. And nitrous is only great when the bottle is full.
Turbo is always there ,makes the power quite low in the rpm band depending on turbo sizing,engine size,etc and can be very docile in daily driving but a tiger when in boost. Don't hurt mileage even helps out in that department if you are light on the gas.
I have been in one sts lt1 now and it impressed a lot. It easily beat my modded 96lt1 and was bone stock running 5 pounds boost.I went by my car like it was standing still.Never raced it with my 99 trans am yet ,99 is down with clutch/hydraulic problems.
And cheaper ways to get power are not always the way people want to go. I can take an old 500 car and throw in a big engine,gut it and make it as fast or faster than lots of cars on this board. But having a nice super or turbo just makes the car that much more fun or cooler.Supercharger whine or turbo sounds..a car that sounds like a freakin jet.
Can't get that na or with spray .And hey turbos and spray work well too.
And most turbo cars are not set up for drag racing.Lots of guys don't care less about the 1/4 mile or track racing. I only made it to track after 45 years on the planet..am 47 now. I always had muscle cars and stuff but never really mattered about track times. Some enjoy a fast highway blast or handling or all of the above. Our cars really are lousy drag cars. Too big,too heavy,crappy rear ends stock,
crappy autos and stock clutches..etc.

Anyway I have ridden in and run against an sts car,it was no joke.The system worked well. I still plan on turbo for my 99 trans am but going front mount. The sts to me are too much money new ,they went up over a grand since they first came out and don't want to take off my b and b catback or cut off my kenny brown subframe connector.
Also they did sort of lie ,on buddies lt1 car he needs bigge injectors and fuel pump even to run 5 psi without big knock. Not a huge deal but still more money. He bought a timing retard ignition also.

So sts haters think its about time you gave it up. Yes its pricey and yes you can go just as fast for cheaper. But it does work ,does turn out some great track and dyno times and does attract more attention at car shows then having Pam Anderson on your hood naked!

I would consider an sts used for cheap on any of my f bodies. They sound awesome when they spool up beside your or in front of you.There was some lag in buddies auto car but he needs a stall and two steps help also.And forget hooking up these turbos on street tires.Nittos or drag tires pretty much required to run any decent times.
Well said Yes the price is high for a new STS kit, but anybody that has access to the internet and a couple of hand tools can easily piece together the parts needed to make their own. The kits take very little fabrication. You will find they can be made with the same quality parts for less than 1/3 of the cost including an intercooler. You can then spend your extra money on tunning, suspension, engine, etc. Now then, who has the BEST bang for the buck!!!
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Avengeance
Bold statement.. a tad far fetched. If his tuning is in check he'd hand you your ***.... cause youre going to run out... 2 bottles or not, I promise you.

Sorry.. I just really hate dumb *** arguments. Too many "ifs" and the only sure thing is youll run out of bottle.
That car would never come close to handing me or my car its ***. I wouldnt even have to use the bottle for the whole race...LMAO In actuality id beat him on motor most likely in my car. Thats not the matter here though.
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Originally Posted by Avengeance
Bold statement.. a tad far fetched. If his tuning is in check he'd hand you your ***.... cause youre going to run out... 2 bottles or not, I promise you.

Sorry.. I just really hate dumb *** arguments. Too many "ifs" and the only sure thing is youll run out of bottle.
Tuning in check or not, how many times do you see a tuner make 5 back to back pulls to make sure the timing and fueling is there when the car is boldly hot?? i rest my case. Carry on STS'ers.
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Not going to bash, but I will say I ran a 2.2 or 2.4 60' can't remember witch run was witch. 11.61 @127mph on the 4 busted pistons in my signature 3862 race weight and on Goodyear F1's. Not a DR for those who don't know. It dynoed 460rwhp and 500rwtq at MTI a few days before when I found out where my power went. I'm a 6spd car also. Nice power your making though. As far as the stock bottom end it will live with a good tune for a short time 575 is what mine was makeing before hand. You will find out on your own though. Good luck with your setup sounds like your making headway with the STS kit.
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
I have 2 bottles in the car just for that reason. I promise you your car would grenade faster then the nitrous car would if you were on the streets and ran 5 consecutive passes back to back with no cool down.
on the street my sts car would have gone 5 pases without issue over 700rwhp..sorry your wrong. Why do you insist on bashing a kit thats gone 9's in a vette, mid 10's in gtos and plenty of low 11 fbodys not to mention several 11 sec trucks...seriously your hard on is going limp for sts. Let it go and go build more truck manifold flanges.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Tuning in check or not, how many times do you see a tuner make 5 back to back pulls to make sure the timing and fueling is there when the car is boldly hot?? i rest my case. Carry on STS'ers.

Well, that depends on where you take your car to be tuned dosen't it!

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Originally Posted by PurEvl
on the street my sts car would have gone 5 pases without issue over 700rwhp..sorry your wrong. Why do you insist on bashing a kit thats gone 9's in a vette, mid 10's in gtos and plenty of low 11 fbodys not to mention several 11 sec trucks...seriously your hard on is going limp for sts. Let it go and go build more truck manifold flanges.
I dont care for that style of kit that is all. I will build manifold flanges. and my own kit based off of them too.
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ya an if i dont like my manifolds, i will still be buying yours We may be doing some more also
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Originally Posted by longrange4u
Common guys... everyone knows you can forge a motor and Spray the **** out of it and get great results for the dollar.

But you wanna run me 3 out of 5? Your bottle will be getting kinda light... Oh by the way... I dont open or refill anything to tap my power... just press the gas to the floor.

Jared

Big talk seeing how you a 1000 miles away! I said I'm not a fan but good try with those ET's
You know people like you make mwe want to take the road trip to shut you the hell up!! 11.6 You and your car is a joke! I run 11.34 off the bottle, Let me hook it up! Maybe you should reasearch peoples profile of what they have before your mouth writes checks you Big Bird car can't cash!!
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
That car would never come close to handing me or my car its ***. I wouldnt even have to use the bottle for the whole race...LMAO In actuality id beat him on motor most likely in my car. Thats not the matter here though.
The point of this post is to accept the fact that his car made good track times... not whether or not he can boast beating another car. An 11 second car is pretty damnned quick hands down! The way you get from point A to point B is not as important as how fast you can get there

The same assumption goes for yours as well.
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guys lets not be children and argue all pathetic like.
keep this thread civil or da lock will end it.
so keep it on topic and no arguing.



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