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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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I was wondering what head gasket to go with for my turbo motor. I Have 6.0L truck heads and plan on running around 15# of boost on the street and around 21#'s at the track on a 370 iron block. Also what header gaskets to use as well. Any insight from some of you guys would be apprciated. Thanks
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Use stock MLS gaskets for a 6.0. I use high temp RTV for the header haskets.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Im using the GM MLS gaskets also and i plan on pushing it alot harder then you.... they work....
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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The mls gasket works great!! We did a first head gasket check on Mike Browns CE and liked what we saw. Just get your heads O-ringed and run good fuel when boosting above 15 and a meth kit wouldnt hurt either.
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by InconFormula
The mls gasket works great!! We did a first head gasket check on Mike Browns CE and liked what we saw. Just get your heads O-ringed and run good fuel when boosting above 15 and a meth kit wouldnt hurt either.
What do you mean get the heads o-ringed? I not sure what that means. Yeah I got a alcohol kit as well for when I'm boosting higher than 15PS1. the info would help. Thanks
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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Wasn't Harlan running close to 30 psi with the Gm MLS and NO o-rings???

I have been running 15 psi and have had no problems yet, hopefully I will not!
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by InconFormula
The mls gasket works great!! ...Just get your heads O-ringed
I was told that o-ringed heads won't work with the mls gasket.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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thats what i thought, but ive been wrong before.

stock 6.0 mls, the stock gaskets for the manafolds next tot he heads, and high temp rtv for the triangle flange on the manafolds.
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I use rtv on all exhaust, even the headers to the heads. They do not leak.
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You cannot use a MLS head gasket on a O ringed car. If your going to O ring it jusr use a graphite gasket. Stock 6.0 MLS here too with ARP head studs.
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Okay so no o-ringing the heads and use the MLS gaskets. Also use stock manafold gasket with high temp silicone gasket. Is that right.
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Originally Posted by 00TurboT/A
Okay so no o-ringing the heads and use the MLS gaskets. Also use stock manafold gasket with high temp silicone gasket. Is that right.
Just put on the MLS gaskets and a light tack of cooper coat. Thats what I do.
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Right why use anything else below 1200 or so hp, GM MLS works.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
You cannot use a MLS head gasket on a O ringed car. If your going to O ring it jusr use a graphite gasket. Stock 6.0 MLS here too with ARP head studs.
Sorry to dispute this. I'm not sure how high boost you could push them but I have O-rings in my block and receiver grooves in my heads (4.030 bore using 6.0 gaskets) and the MLS gaskets are awesome, I have pushed them around 15 PSI with absolutely no problem. For other reasons I hate thinking about, (not gasket related) I have installed these gaskets two different times with no leaking or problems first try. The MLS tri-metal design is thin enough to "form" itself into the grooves. When you take them out it's clean and they look like they were made for it. I also have heard they have held up quite well without o-ringing too. Good luck.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Me:
6.0 heads
GM MLS head gaskets
No o-rings
17-21 lbs of boost
A1 head studs

When I pull off my 6.0's well see how my MLS's did.
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Originally Posted by BlwnTA
Sorry to dispute this. I'm not sure how high boost you could push them but I have O-rings in my block and receiver grooves in my heads (4.030 bore using 6.0 gaskets) and the MLS gaskets are awesome, I have pushed them around 15 PSI with absolutely no problem. For other reasons I hate thinking about, (not gasket related) I have installed these gaskets two different times with no leaking or problems first try. The MLS tri-metal design is thin enough to "form" itself into the grooves. When you take them out it's clean and they look like they were made for it. I also have heard they have held up quite well without o-ringing too. Good luck.

Well when I talked to Brain Tolley of TEA he said no way. Thats is what I based my opinion on. Here is what he has said in the past about it. And since I got my first set of heads from them or was suppost to (Long story) I took his word.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....79&postcount=2
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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May make a difference if you have receiver grooves in the piece opposite of the o-rings.

I have only o-rings in the heads, and no corresponding groove for the metal gasket to distort into.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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http://www.scegaskets.com/products/ics.html





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http://www.scegaskets.com/news/ics-t...horsepower.htm

The ICS Titan head gasket was installed without sealants, o-rings or
receiver grooves. Pressure transducers were mounted at the gasket and data sampling occurred at a rate of 120 times per second to confirm that there were no coolant or combustion leaks at any point in the tests.
A closer look at the numbers shows that the new ICS Titan head gasket sealed over 6.4 hp/cubic inch at an estimated 3300 psi cylinder pressure. We were as pleased with the performance of the new head gasket as we were impressed with the colossal horsepower of Kenny's "little" engine.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Well when I talked to Brain Tolley of TEA he said no way. Thats is what I based my opinion on. Here is what he has said in the past about it. And since I got my first set of heads from them or was suppost to (Long story) I took his word.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....79&postcount=2
I understand...most people are shocked when I tell them. I o-ringed the block/heads so I could use copper gaskets.....6 out of 8 cylinders leaked with those! Probably not set-up right though, so i switched to the MLS and no problems. I put 3000 miles on the car this year most of which where above 4000 rpms ,probably 20 passes for fun at the track, and a couple dozen dyno pulls. I'm sure there is a limitation to what I have done, but I'm loving the hassle free set-up for now!
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OK here is my setup.

Ported 5.7 heads with O-rings. Old set off Formula.
6.0 MLS gaskets.
LS2 block no modifications.
Off the shelf ARP studs.
I clean both surfaces and clamp em down.

I ran this combo all season on one set of gaskets. At the end of the season I was up to 27psi max at 21 timing. They leak no water. I do push some water on each pass but this seams to be the norm at this level. Thing is they could have stayed in longer but wanted to check things out and start fresh before going to Florida.

I'm just telling you what has worked for me. Will it work for you? I don't know. But this is the same setup we will be using on the Formula when we replace the iron block. Cheaper then copper and no silicone mess to deal with.

Good luck.
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